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| It was a great game that could have gone either way, I think the best team won it on the night without a doubt. The turning point was definately the Welker drop but it was by no means an easy one IMO. Thought our D was excellent apart from the 12 men on the field penalty which took away the fumble and resulted in the TD, it's literally luck of the draw with the forced fumbles that we couldn't recover, can never predict how a ball will bounce. We give up a load of yards but don't concede many points and with a few additions on Defense I can only see us improving next year.
That Manningham catch on the Giants last drive was superb, live I thought there was no way he got both feet down but after the 1st replay it was clear it was a catch, I called the play to let the Giants score at the end but 2 plays earlier, it was clear at that point we couldn't stop them so we could have saved a bit of extra time I thought.
Can't really complain about the result like I say I think the best team won but I did expect it to be more of a shootout and there to be more points. Watching as a fan at the time I could only see the mistakes we made but thinking about it afterwards it will go down as one of the best superbowls in a while IMO. Superbowls are no fun for losers though
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| someone had to lose
no gloating from us fins but it will be bradys last
a great superbowl but goes to showthe narrow margins but how good BB is as a coach
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Roll on next year when the Saints and Packers come back with a vengence and G can get his hopes up for a Skins Wildcard!!'"
Now all this playoffs and superbowl nonsense is done with it's the Redskins time to shine. It's the off-season!!!!
get ready for the mega trade that lands us RGIII or the move for Manning or Flynn.
Once we get our QB, beware.
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| Do you still have faith in Shanahan(sp) G??
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Do you still have faith in Shanahan(sp) G??'"
Yes, but he MUST fix the QB position this off-season.
You have to understand the mess our roster was in. We're now younger and better in nearly all positions.
We're heading in the right direction and I like the shape the roster is taking. But it will all be for naught if he doesn't address QB.
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Video took too long to load otherwise I'd have happily watched it
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| The football withdrawal symptoms will start to kick in over the weekend. Like many hardened addicts I occasionally take a peek inside the world of the CFL during the Summer, which is a sure sign of having a serious issue.
At least the Chicago Bulls are having another good season so until the Heat beat them again in the playoffs there is something of interest going on. I should not think about White Sox baseball though as that will darken the mood a little.
Stupid short season, we want 18 games now!
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Here you go Mark
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Here you go Mark
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| my eldest is over in New york and tells me of a rumour flying around
The Redskins and Fins are planning to battle it out for Peyton Manning as long as the neck is ok
brady v manning twice in a season
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| The Dolphins rumours have been circulating for a week or so now, although there are huge doubts if his arm will ever be strong enough to make all the required throws.
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| That's the thing he may not/probably wont be the same ever again especially at this late stage of his career but teams will still take a chance on him because of his past reputation, even if he only plays for another 2/3 years it would be a dramatic improvement on some teams QB's and would surely help to develop the other QB's on the roster.
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| Rumours are rife about Manning and the Redskins.
I have mixed feelings. We MUST address QB. My preference is to trade picks with the rams and get RGIII. However, there is no guarantee we can pull off that trade, especially if Cleveland want to do the same. So, if we don't address QB in the free agency and don't land RGIII we're left with drafting someone not ready to play and another year of Rex or, god forbid, Beck.
Also, if we get Manning, we can acquire more weapons in the draft as trading up for RGIII will probably cost us our 1st, 2nd, 4th and next year's 1st. There's some logic in getting Manning and saving all those picks for linemen and receivers to help him.
Ideally though, I'd like to see RGIII in Burgundy and Gold.
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| Quote ="G1"We MUST address QB. My preference is to trade picks with the rams and get RGIII'"
I would not necessarily go in that direction, just because Cam Newton was such a success as a rookie in the NFL does not mean that RGIII will be. There are major concerns about his lack of size and whether he will be able to take the NFL pounding his style suggests he will get in the league. Cam Newton is a genuine athletic freak and the chances of catching lightning in a bottle in a second successive draft with that type of QB is slim. He could also develop into a good starting quarterback, that's why GM's and scouts are paid millions of dollars, it's difficult to project college trigger men.
For someone to be taken in the 2nd/3rd round I like the look of Kirk Cousins from Michigan State. Seems as though he would be a good system fit for the Shanahan offense.
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| I agree on RG3 although I like the guy he is not in the same mould as Cam, cam is like vince young in terms of size, RG3 could potentially be an Aliki smith although hopefully not, he could become a warren moon type qb.
R,E,the fins, look what a less talented (imo) did with a weak armed but healthy Chad Pennington in 08. If Manning is healthy he is the man, draft someone like Brock Osweieler (Arizona state, guys 6'8 all the tangibles and can move) in the third to groom) I'd also take a look at ryan tannehill.
Talking of pennington he hasnt retired yet and although he cant really start or possibly even take a hit he's the type of guy I'd love to have on the sidlines with a view to coaching alongside JT and Zach Thomas if that were possible. Miami are also looking at the CFL's top running back
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| How many QB's 6'7'' and taller have been a success in the NFL?. Did you ever see Dan McGwire? urgh.
He is probably in the CFL because he's bad at football. Just like Andy Fantuz who tore it up in Canada as a Wide Receiver but was cut by the Bears during training camp. We are talking about the Bears whose corps of Receivers is just about as bad as it gets in the NFL.
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| I don't follow the college game closely enough to disagree about your opinions on RG3 but what I've read many "experts" rate him better than Newton and Vick coming out of college. Unlike Young he's also very intelligent, mature and balanced according to reports.
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| Quote ="Bob Dylan's Hat"How many QB's 6'7'' and taller have been a success in the NFL?. Did you ever see Dan McGwire? urgh.
He is probably in the CFL because he's bad at football. Just like Andy Fantuz who tore it up in Canada as a Wide Receiver but was cut by the Bears during training camp. We are talking about the Bears whose corps of Receivers is just about as bad as it gets in the NFL.'"
Good point and no although there are plenty of modern examples, jamarcus russell to name one. I think the differnce with oswieler though is his mobility in the pocket compared to other qbs his size.
We can hope he turns out to be a gem like Cam Wake was, I know the chances are slime, but we need someone to compliment reggie, Thomas will be a bust, he just dosent have the runners instict for a gap made by the o-line.
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| Quote ="G1"I don't follow the college game closely enough to disagree about your opinions on RG3 but what I've read many "experts" rate him better than Newton and Vick coming out of college. Unlike Young he's also very intelligent, mature and balanced according to reports.'"
I'll admit i dont watch a lot and the bit about is character and attitude rings true to all accounts, which is good as it is often the biggest problem with 1st round qbs, eg leaf russell clausen.
My point was that unlike Newton and Young who are both 3-4 inches taller and a fair bit heavier, RG3 is simply not built to take the NFL hits, nor athletically freakish enough to avoid them like Vick. RG3 will have to learn to be a poket passer and rely less on his athletiscm than cam did or else RG3 will be spending considerable time on the treatment table imo.
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Quote ="Barrie's Glass Eye"I'll admit i dont watch a lot and the bit about is character and attitude rings true to all accounts, which is good as it is often the biggest problem with 1st round qbs, eg leaf russell clausen.
'" Agreed. People raised similar questions about Cam Newton before last year's draft if you'll recall.
Quote My point was that unlike Newton and Young who are both 3-4 inches taller and a fair bit heavier, RG3 is simply not built to take the NFL hits, nor athletically freakish enough to avoid them like Vick. RG3 will have to learn to be a poket passer and rely less on his athletiscm than cam did or else RG3 will be spending considerable time on the treatment table imo.'" From what I've read and, as I say, I am only going on what I've read and highlights on youtube, he's more athletic than both Vick and Newton were entering the league and is also better in the pocket than Vick and Newton were in the league. Like I say, just what i've read and I accept that is just someones opinion, just like mine and yours (though i assume they've watched more college ball than us).
Quote Do you think the Skins will have to trade up to get him?'"
Without a doubt. Cleveland is the big competition at pick 4. Nobody else before us would take a QB, IMO. The Rams will trade back and I think we'll be willing to offer more than Cleveland. They have McCoy even though they're not entirely sold on him. We have nothing!
Here's a quick article I found about RGIII which makes comparisons with Newton.
bleacherreport.com/articles/1001 ... cam-newton
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'" Agreed. People raised similar questions about Cam Newton before last year's draft if you'll recall.
Quote My point was that unlike Newton and Young who are both 3-4 inches taller and a fair bit heavier, RG3 is simply not built to take the NFL hits, nor athletically freakish enough to avoid them like Vick. RG3 will have to learn to be a poket passer and rely less on his athletiscm than cam did or else RG3 will be spending considerable time on the treatment table imo.'" From what I've read and, as I say, I am only going on what I've read and highlights on youtube, he's more athletic than both Vick and Newton were entering the league and is also better in the pocket than Vick and Newton were in the league. Like I say, just what i've read and I accept that is just someones opinion, just like mine and yours (though i assume they've watched more college ball than us).
Quote Do you think the Skins will have to trade up to get him?'"
Without a doubt. Cleveland is the big competition at pick 4. Nobody else before us would take a QB, IMO. The Rams will trade back and I think we'll be willing to offer more than Cleveland. They have McCoy even though they're not entirely sold on him. We have nothing!
Here's a quick article I found about RGIII which makes comparisons with Newton.
bleacherreport.com/articles/1001 ... cam-newton
Quote there's a better version of Cam Newton headed into the 2012 NFL draft, and his name is Robert Griffin III.'"
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| He reallly will be something special if he is more athletic than vick. Although I agree, his solid passing fundamentals will mean his transition will be easier than vick and he could also easily be as good as or surpass Cams rookie year.
Mcoy struggled after getting levelled by James Harrison, and he has been decent, but he was only a 3rd rounder, so its not like they are giving up on a huge investment.
You have rex he is reasonably serviceable. How much do you think the skins will have to give up for RG3?
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| my top 3 QB in the draft would be
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than if i was the redskins MS should take a good hard look at Ryan Tannehill
brandon wheeler is good but at 28 he is too old to learn in a "fix it now and win" league.
if he is still there in r2 kirk cousins is a nice QB who may develope well
fins will go for reily reiff if he is still there or quinton couples as we go to a 4-3 line ( we dont need to do it) but wtf would i know
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| Quote ="Barrie's Glass Eye"
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he is reasonably serviceable. How much do you think the skins will have to give up for RG3?'"
I think we will need to swap 1sts, give them our 2nd and 4th and maybe next year's 1st as well. A huge price but few teams are as desperate for a franchise QB as us.
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| cough the dolphins cough but your right, you are a young team that will continue to grow and get better, but it helps if you get a franchise qb to build around and will lift the young stars like kerrigan if they dont have to trudge back on the pitch after another rex pick.
However I think you are also in need of a wide reciever for your young qb, behind Cooley, Davis and the somewhat streaky Moss you are deviod of legit playmakers imo. Maybe pick up someone like Braylon edwards. or if your lockeroom can take it, the unretiring and seemingly hungry Randy Moss. Who I would love to see opposite Marshall at the fins but that will not happen because Ireland dosent like to gamble
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| Quote ="BigJake"my top 3 QB in the draft would be
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than if i was the redskins MS should take a good hard look at Ryan Tannehill
brandon wheeler is good but at 28 he is too old to learn in a "fix it now and win" league.
if he is still there in r2 kirk cousins is a nice QB who may develope well
fins will go for reily reiff if he is still there or quinton couples as we go to a 4-3 line ( we dont need to do it) but wtf would i know'"
I agree outside of Luck and Griffin the next QB off the board will depend entirelly on what that team wants in a QB, there is no standout, although IMO Tannenhill is the most intresting with his athletiscm and potential to play WR or QB and because of his injury he could fall into the 3rd where Miami could take him as a project/ to give CPR to the Wildcat. However we also need a TE.
Weeden is too old and former baseballers do not do well in the NFL, I see him dropping to the fourth maybe fith unless a team is sold on him as a starter from day one.
Fins Main needs a a RT and another pass rusher to compliment wake, who imo would benifit from a move to a 4-3. Either player you named would do nicely
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