People seem to be going a bit OTT about this lads 1st half performance for me. I thought he was good but not great. He lacked pace for a winger and as good as the finish was for the try, it was made easier by Tim Smith not being bothered to even make a tackle. Like I said earlier, a good back up, but I think he will only get decent game time through injuries.

I think this squad now has excellent strength in depth. My only medium-term concern is the Sinfield/Burrow/McGuire succession.

But I think we'll win everything in 2013. There, I said it.

Conversely he may be a bit off the pace given the timing/nature of the friendly too. I know it's only a highlights reel and most against reserve grade but on the video sharing site he doesn't look slow at all, and has good leg drive in contact.

I can't see anyone going OTT either.

That's how i see it and maybe Keinhorst getting a dual reg deal in the championship 1 or 2.

I understand that young Ben may be out for a considerable length of time.

Disclaimer: second post, take with pinch of salt

I thought he went well and showed decent speed and defense on a couple of occasions were BJB was getting caught out in 2012. Can only bolster the squad if he continues in that vein but think BJB will be starting winger.

Anyone else look at his running style/physique and think of Pat Richards?

....as does Hall



The legend that is Hall and the legend that was Alan Smith both show pace is not the only attribute that justifies the claim to be a great winger. Nobody finishes or finished better than these two.

He looked a good assett to the squad, but it does pain me to see the likes of the home grown Chisholm being (probably) pushed even further down the pecking order for a wing spot. Another one perhaps to join the ranks of Broughton, Amor and probably Singleton.

The Leeds club does seem to be making a habit of finding good young uns to benefit the whole of the SL at its then own future expense.

......Unless of course Hardaker and Watkins are joining Hall in the NRL and again we just don't know yet

No he doesn't.



Why would it pain you, he played better than Chisholm, surely you'd want the better of the two to get played. Whilst it's great to have academy products in the first team it's not vital that everybody is, and we still do as good a job as anyone in that department.

This is probably the exact reason why they announced it as a trial at first because it was predictable that some fans would get quite precious about an unheard Aussie getting ahead of an academy lad.

I tend to agree with Nantwich re Hall`s pace.
I have seen no evidence yet to suggest Hall has the pace to burn someone on the outside.
Yes he is reasonably fast but is not in the pace to burn catergory IMO
You would normally see Hall coming inside when a pacy winger wold skin the fullback or opposition winger to score a try.

But like you said 'he is reasonably fast'......that'll do for a winger, especially if what he lacks in an extra yard in pace he more than makes up for in strength and showing a good intelligence of when to go for the line and when to cut inside. How often does BJB get taken into touch because he thought he could take his guy on for pace. Pace isn't that good if you don't know how to use it properly.

Amor is a Wigan Academy product that we signed from another professional club. You could make more of a claim that Vickery is a Leeds product than him.

amor played 3 games for wigan on trial

Does he have an EU passport? If not how many NRL games / Origin / Internationals has he played?

Yes/0/0/0

He is classed as non fed trained but exempt from quota due to being born in Exeter.

Is he related to the ex-England RU prop Phil Vickery who comes from that part of the world?

I don't get it, you seem aware that you come out with some rubbish yet still
continue. Lots of Leeds juniors move on and do ok mainly as they have a greater number of 'quality' players entering then coming through the system, it would be impossible to keep them all. Who exactly would Broughton displace? Amor I'm not sure on yet but you can bet the Leeds coaching staff weighed up their needs/expectations against the players alongside future plans and made what they feel is the right call. Arguably they have the best record of any side in this regard. Also as has been mentioned a forwards development is somewhat different to a back, that being said I think it would be good to see singleton get a 3 month loan say then some game time at Leeds.

So was Rory Kettlewell. I remember the conversation on here very well.





Happy New Year to all over the hills.

any updates from your so called reliable source that said singleton had signed for the pies?
what went wrong rogues?

I can confirm that Wassare<?> was correct in his assumption that Vickery did actually sign prior to his official club announcement, i have been told that he was actually signed weeks ago

Wigan did make an offer but we turned it down

Don`t get me wrong I would not swap Hall for any other SL winger and I agree his strength is a major plus. Just wish he had more pace but you can`t have everything.

I think he does have pace. I just don't think he is elusive and evasive like a Scott Donald winger