Slopping out time at Nandos?

The thought crossed my mind but in reality I think the injury was caused by McGuire hyper-extending his knee after he grabbed Carmont.

After watching that clip on the skysports website a couple of times I think it was a bit of both.

Danny has his hand on Carmont early on then his leg seems to crumple but its only as he goes down that he really commits to dragging Carmont down.

I wouldn't have thought it's quite as SaintJames descirbes it more that Danny knows he's going down and doesn't want Carmont to get away unmarked so decides that the best option is to risk giving away the penalty.

One other thought on the video - is it just me or does Richards almost stop playing entirely to call for a penalty...not the smartest of moves

It was like watching jason vorhees run over to massacre a victim. Not a pretty sight.

Hopefully it'll be looked into.

I've watched the incident on sky using the slo mo, the damage to McGuire has already occurred when Riddell runs over to him, but, Riddell appears to stand on McGuires left foot with his right one.
I can't say that I understand the furore over the shirt pulling it happens in almost every game. Its very dissapointing that supporters are glad that a player is injured.
Please dont bother to correct my spelling or grammer, I'm not bothered.

Thinks Richards slows down to try and look to pass for Carmont, only to find him not there.

Pretty sure Mcguire was taking Carmont out before his knee buckled, he had his hand on his shirt pulling him back then DM clips the back of Carmonts heel and thats when his leg goes.

Good luck to the lad for his recovery, shocking way to end a quality season.

Looked into for what exactly? 2 games and a £300 fine for shouting at a player? Give over.

Grammar.

Looks like mcguire grabs him with out actually pulling him back taht hard, then as his knee goes thats when he pulls him down, think if they had both stayed on their feet wouldnt have been a big issue

Hey, you are a point down with seconds remaining why wouldn't you waste those seconds trying to intimidate a player on the ground?

The speed with which the Wigan team hurtle towards any "incident" en masse suggests that they must actually practice this in training. It's the only explanation.

cough, cough, Keith senior....

heheh - nice to see you only focus on one teams antics. Obviously you weren't watching when many of the Leeds players were crowding around Alibert throught the game - including Senior who at one point grabbed Aliberts arm after he gave a pen for Tomkins getting a smack round the chops. If that had been Ganson in the middle he would have been straight off and facing a 5 match ban

Quote ="Pemps"cough, cough, Keith senior....'" www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 cough, cough, most penalised man in Superleague.

Quote ="Pemps"cough, cough, Keith senior....'" www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 cough, cough, most penalised man in Superleague.

I'm fully aware of that and it's a fact that frustrates the life out of me. All great players have a bit of controlled aggression and Tomkins is 50% there but the relevance to Piggy standing over Mcguire is what?

Quote ="Big Steve"heheh - nice to see you only focus on one teams antics. Obviously you weren't watching when many of the Leeds players were crowding around Alibert throught the game - including Senior who at one point grabbed Aliberts arm after he gave a pen for Tomkins getting a smack round the chops. If that had been Ganson in the middle he would have been straight off and facing a 5 match ban'" Of course. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 10&hp2=250 Most penalised team in Superleague.

Quote ="Big Steve"heheh - nice to see you only focus on one teams antics. Obviously you weren't watching when many of the Leeds players were crowding around Alibert throught the game - including Senior who at one point grabbed Aliberts arm after he gave a pen for Tomkins getting a smack round the chops. If that had been Ganson in the middle he would have been straight off and facing a 5 match ban'" Of course. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 10&hp2=250 Most penalised team in Superleague.

Quote ="DHM"Of course. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 10&hp2=250 Most penalised team in Superleague.'" I'm not sure I get your point. are you saying that because Wigan are the most penalised team in the league then we can't comment on other teams discipline?

Quote ="DHM"Of course. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 10&hp2=250 Most penalised team in Superleague.'" I'm not sure I get your point. are you saying that because Wigan are the most penalised team in the league then we can't comment on other teams discipline?

It's very strange that Tommy L was investigated by the RFL disciplinary panel for an alleged incident on the 80th minute involving Danny McGuire - seemingly on the say so of Bluey, when the player involved was clearly Piggy (well - clear to anyone who isn't blind.....).

Who decides what incidents get reviewed, the RFL or opposition coaches?

Quote ="DHM"Of course. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 10&hp2=250 Most penalised team in Superleague.'" cough, cough, - what has this to do with players crowding round the ref at any incident??

Quote ="DHM"Of course. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 10&hp2=250 Most penalised team in Superleague.'" cough, cough, - what has this to do with players crowding round the ref at any incident??

It's more relevent than "cough, cough Keith Senior". Senior's disciplinary record is extremely good, your purile comment bears no relevence to his actual behaviour. Why did half the Wigan team charge at Kevin Sinfield after an innocuous challenge on Stuart Fielden? Not a high shot, not worthy of a rediculous over reaction.
If you are going to mention a player at least try and pick one with a poor record for giving away penalties. He's given away less than both your centres this year, even though he's made more tackles and carries. But maybe that's because Kevin Sinfield and the rest of the Leeds team are intimidating the ref all the time?

I just thought you would like to see what a fact looks like. You don't seem to have access to any yourself.

You weren't talking about players giving penalties away, you were talking about players needlessly charging in on any incident.

Most unfortunate that Danny chose to pull back the slower moving Carmont. He had Carmont covered anyway and could have tackled him had he been passed the ball. The action of pulling back on Carmont's shirt caused McGuire to trip up as he tried to avoid Carmont's legs. So many injuries are caused when a player goes down unexpectedly.

I mentioned Keith Senior because it was in context to the point about crowding around the ref and it happenned in fridays game! Just because it isn't mentioned in SL stats doesn't mean it isn't one of the FACTS you seem to like so much !

I could start quoting that wigan have the best points difference in the SL this season - it doesn't mean that they are going to win every game though does it?

Keith was one of many players surrounding the ref when he called a pen for a high shot on Joel - he was also the only player who grabbed the referees arm. That seems quite relevant to your point about players ganging up around the ref doesn't it?

The last time I remember a player grabbing a refs arm he got a 5 match ban, in this case Keith didn't get anything, just a scared look from Alibert - he's a pretty lucky boy his 'stats' aren't much worse.

Alot of coughing going on around here. I'm outta here before I catch something.

If Senior had deliberately made contact with the referee the RFL would have been down on him like a ton of bricks and rightly so. Unlike you they were able to clearly see Senior was brushing away Sam Tomkins attempt to push him away. The slap that Alibert received was accidental as he was briefly caught in the midsts of the confrontation.

No worse than a moment later in the same incident when Alibert actually struck Lauitiiti on the side of the head when ushering players away.