I thought our Defence was excellent last night they never looked like scoring and i thought Newman & Briscoe on our right edge were class. With the ball we struggled admittedly but we won.
Also how poor has Bateman been this Season? He's fast becoming a parody of his former self & that Harry Smith is way over rated not a patch on Dodd or Lewis.

Am I the only one that thought Miks tackle was shoulder to shoulder? The replays the sky team showed were rubbish and never showed contact with head. If he would have made contact with his head I think it would gave come off!

Didn't look like it hit the head to me either.

Hardaker had a torrid time didn't he, Prior winding him up was hilarious

I thought on the replay at half time when Carney highlighted it, that there was contact with the head but would need to watch again for certain. The bulk of the collision was, however, body to body.

He really took some hammer didn't he? In fairness he soaked it up and kept coming. Despite his many flaws he's never been soft and never been dirty.

I thought Hardaker was Wigan's best player, to be fair

Yep Zak was awesome (on the field) for us for a few years.

Shadow of his former self but still game. We were hammering him all night though.

Just on Leeming's drop goal attempt. He should've known straight away to abandon that play, because they were on him. Either move the ball on or take the tackle, as it was only on the 4th.

Sorry fellas been in a pretty dark place for a while and just picking fights everywhere and being pretty down on everything.

Hey, this is a safe place to pick a fight. We all talk big but we wear pillows for gloves.

I enjoy your posts seth. not sure you're the one picking fights mate

Sethsters take it easy bud. ALAW and all that. You talk a lot of sense, don’t take anything personally it’s just opinions.

Spot on Jim.
Seth with your coaching quality and insight you have probably forgotten more about RL than most of us on here will ever know.

I really enjoyed the atmosphere in the Leeds end last night. Reckon we took about 1,800 over which meant Wigan probably had about 5,500 there which as ocd Stephen said is pretty poor for the game.

Thought Handley and Luke Briscoe did great with the thankless tasks of defending kickers and hard yards carries.

Great defence from us but Bizarre that Wigan could only play by numbers on attack given the quality of players like Zak, Farrell etc.
Second half I thought There biggest threat was Singo’s offloads. Not a sentence I thought I would ever say.

PM me if you want to talk. I don’t know how to do it from the phone hence posting this, but here if you need mate.

Thank you for all the kind words and offers of support. Probably not a logical place for the conversation but on waiting 16 months already for therapy things are even more strained than normal and your kindness means a lot.

Dont apologise for having an opinion Seth we all know you love the game, have deep knowledge of the game and speak a lot of sense on the sport. Rugby League is like life, we all have tough times but its how we fight back and respond from it that counts pal.

I dont think anyone really disagrees with your opinion last night. Deep down i think we all agree, it wasnt a classic entertaining game but it was a good away win under the circumstances.

Hope your ok mate. Your health is way more important than any piddly rugby match.

Mate the RL & opinions on here mean nothing i hope you can get the help you neef if you need a chat anytime just PM.
Ive been there & im getting ongoing help so try not to be too hard or down on yourself.
MOT

Take it steady Seth and keep talking pal, it’s the best remedy I’ve friends who’ve gone through the same.

Seth, hope you feel better soon, we’re all guilty of taking things a bit too seriously on here at times, don’t beat yourself up about it, take care if yourself

No fights on here mate.
Just opinions.
Sometimes we agree, sometimes we don't.
That's what makes it interesting.
Take care.

The game is on YouTube if you search Wigan Leeds and change filter to vids longer than 20 mins. They show the clips at half time around the 1.30 mark. You can slow the video down to get a better look.
He could be in bother for a shoulder charge but no contact with the head in my opinion.
Great commitment from both players going into contact, you can really see it when you slow it down.

Do you really think there was only 3x as many Wigan fans there? We were saying it was probably more of a 9k crowd and was down to the usual fiddling of gate receipts as SL take a cut for play-offs.

take care fwiw apart from early 1st tackle errors enjoyed it as an evenly matched 4 v 5 game. realistically sts and cats been miles ahead but it's any given friday /thurs and they both have to turn up. now as can't get there due to work do i have to go to same pub as last round and sit in the same place

I’ll take your word for it that Wigan were on the fiddle. Even with 9k there’s it’s not great for such a big club.
My concern is more around low crowds across the game rather than Wigan in particular.