Basically if Handley went for the ball Gotcha would have said he should have gone for the man and vice versa, fact is he went for the man which was the correct decision.

Agree with that. Really pleased I went along, they looked like a team. I wonder if they've been told you are the squad for next season with possible exceptions of Ferres and Golding and therefore spirit is in a different league.

Myler has done ball steals in last 2 games that has changed both games our way.

Shame really because Gotcha clearly has a lot of knowledge about the game and I enjoy most of his posts. But he rarely changes his opinion or accepts anyone else's if they disagree with him. The lad maybe doesn't have the ability but tries, like when he almost got out of the in goal. And at a time when so many of the team have been going through the mentions, he's been someone to at least give it a go

Not to be churlish but where the _____ have they been all year? Playing well because your contract might be torn up doesn’t wash with me at all.

Benefit of the doubt; Lui is helping Myler and some others have been recovering from niggling injuries.

He should have gone for the ball, Simple as. The player dropping the ball had nothing to do with Handley, he wasn’t there for the drop, that was because of the pass. Handley has no idea what he is doing and just goes for the man. The ball was there.

I agree on the ingoal area, and I don’t even blame him for the drop ball from the kick, as all those Cas players were way offside. But the rest of his game was awful. His positioning in defence terrible, and the really frustrating issue of not been on his wing when attacks are made there. But the biggest thing last night was the the Hurrell no try. It shouldn’t have come to that, even kids teams wingers would have scored before that. What he was doing with flailing arms on the floor I do not know, it was quite simple to score.

If he plays well, I will quite gladly comment on it, and I have a couple of times. But most times he is a very poor winger. I actually think he is better at centre.

I didn’t think Handley had time to go for the ball. The Cas player was already catching the ball as Handley got there. It was Handley’s pressure that contributed to it being dropped.

And I disagree. The ball was dropped with or without Handley. The ball had bounced up off the floor before Handley took the man.

If Handley had gone for the ball and missed it Cas had an open field, he made the correct decision as the result showed.

Simple as

No, you are misreading the timeline. I am not talking about the pass, I am talking about the dropped ball. There was no chance for an open field, as the Knock on was already made. He went for the man, despite the dropped ball.

Can I please ask what it matters if Handley went for the ball or the man? Lol.

Great effort great win. Let's be happy about it.

According to the YEP Daryl Powell thinks there were some "tough calls" against them. Not sure what else Thaler could have done with a 13-6 penalty count in their favour and a lot of 50/50 calls going their way (especially all the ball steal penalties they got compared to the loose carry knock-ons given when we lost it in the tackle).

Yep it was 3 or 4 calls from Thaler that effectively got Cas back into the game.
There were 2 in particular virtually back to back midway in the second half where he gave a knock-on against us despite Cas hands all over the ball and then a penalty against us for the same thing.
Then another one after the kick off I think that he then gave us a team warning for.

In defence of the refs it’s very difficult to tell but there was a period there where it felt harsh towards us.

The facts are that Blair couldn't afford not to take that horror of a pass and Handley couldn't afford to let him get past him with the ball. Only one of them got their script right.

Well needed performance and win despite appalling refereeing. It's not just Thaler, there's been poor refs at times during the 60+ years I've been a supporter/fan of Leeds. But nowadays, more than ever, this sorry bunch have direct influence on results. So much so that I've decided not to watch superleague unless Leeds are playing.

The ball steal lottery is getting ridiculous. We definitely need to introduce 2 referees, I thought they were meant to be trialling it in the U19s this season?

Powell is clearly a good coach, but he also comes across as a miserable so-and-so.

McShane got his hands in almost every tackle. Outcome was successful slowing PTB while opposition player tried to disentangle, and at least 2 “knock ons” won.

Whilever cheating gets rewarded players will do it to gain an advantage. All sides do it to some extent but I particularly noticed McShane last night.

I’ve also seen players drop the ball when in possession and tackled by 2+ players when they fee they’ll win a penalty.

If we can get rid of this crap it will significantly enhance the spectacle.

Powell, thank god he's extended his contract at Cas, some on here really like him, candidly he is a poor looser, always Blames others for his shortcomings , look at last nights game, Thaller tried everything to help Cas and he comes out with they got some bad calls. He is a miserable bitch, I wouldn't pee on him if he was on fire.
The good news, we played well , we won and I'm happy, I even had my testicles played with by two Cas women, well one was a women .

They could have done with those ball handling skills on the pitch.

Powell has been found out to be an average coach , Leeds have dodged a bullet here . Apart from one outstanding season in 2017 his record is bang average .

His constant carping about referees is very tiresome , he's got a ton of injuries , like no one else has ??

Worst of all is the constant head shaking and looks of disgust he shows whenever one of his team makes a mistake .

His management under pressure looks very suspect , in coaching terms no better than say Chester or Radford .

He is a serial loser. He has a losers mentality and he's a petulant little b-tch just like his players. I don't think he'll ever win a trophy.

my gawd where do you think he learned his trade, now it comes back against you do you only see what happens in the ruck

Wherever he "learned" it is irrelevant, the fact is that it's cheating and it spoils the game.

The whole ruck area is a mess. In an age where SL is under serious pressure, if seasoned fans are getting narked with it then how do you think new markets will take to it?

Ball security in the tackle has always been difficult to police in RL. The current rules aren't really working though.

It wasn’t hard to police when the attacker simply had responsibility to keep hold of the ball, and there was no two man tackle stripping nonsense.