Yes, it can BOUNCE forward, but it can't LAND forward of the passer. The ball was thrown forward by the passer.

Sutcliffe was not moving forward with the momentum to move the ball forward at the rate it did.

You never tire of being wrong, do you?

If I am - for example - playing with a strong wind at my back I can pass the ball laterally and have it land in front of the point at which I passed it, even if I am standing still. It's still a legitimate pass, despite the fact it lands in front of where I released it.

The only criteria that matters is the direction of the ball the split second it leaves my hands. Providing that is not forward, it is not a forward pass.

Yes, but the ball cannot change direction UNLESS another force acts upon it, such, as you suggest, wind (of which there was none), so, without momentum imparted by the direction of the passer (of which there was none), how on Earth did the ball move forward after leaving his hands?

I can tell you. It was passed forward.

Here's an easy one for you, was Sutcliffe running forward when he passed the ball?

The ball went forward about 3 metres.

Was he running FORWARD at 3m/s?

No, he wasn't.

But wait, you said he had no forward momentum at all before.

So now he does have forward momentum but you've measured it at less than 3m/s. A very slow speed for a half. Or anyone for that matter.

You've also, I notice, measured the point at which the ball left Sutcliffe's hands and the point it hits the ground as 3 metres.

Interesting. Bullsh|t, but interesting nonetheless.

I'd also suggest you learn how far 3m actually is!!

Just seen the previous weeks highlights from the game at headingley, there was a blatant forward pass from Tim Smith to Kirmond in the play before the kick through for wakeys first try. Fans will always be the same, bias in their assessment of decisions for and against their side, though Leeds apparently are the only team to get away with forward passes.

Oh and the short ball for the Ali try is questionable too.