There's an angle from behind the posts where the Leeds fans were sat which seems to show both men running, McGuire slightly behind Carmont with his arm out holding on to Carmont's jersey. McGuire then stumbles and falls, grabbing onto the back of Carmont and bringing him down in the process.

Not sure at what point in all that the injury occured or what McGuire's thought process was, but from that angle it's a pretty innocuous looking fall and a tangle of bodies.

To be fair I agree, which is why I find it interesting that a Journo has brought it up and offered it as an explanation!

If you listen to the Bulls fans DC is a staunch Leeds supporter, which might explain that one.

Well he writes for the YP, so would expect a Yorkshire leaning (& possibly Leeds) in any report he does but he has stuck his neck out there a little!

Good effort.

But if someone with teh photoshop skillz can put Sam Tomkins, hand on knee, on the other half of the sofa then it becomes A++.

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Bluey speaks out! : www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... tlead.html

Bluey speaks out! : www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... tlead.html

Quote ="RhinoNeil"Bluey speaks out! : www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... tlead.html'" Needs to keep his mouth shut IMO, said enough controversial things himself this year.

Quote ="RhinoNeil"Bluey speaks out! : www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... tlead.html'" Needs to keep his mouth shut IMO, said enough controversial things himself this year.

Quote ="RhinoNeil"Bluey speaks out! : www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... tlead.html'" More misplaced chelping and lack of rational leadership focus from an increasingly embarrassing coach ahead of the most important fixture of the season. The only surprise being that he hasn't yet set up a Twitter account to make a complete twit of himself on there too. He seriously needs to STFU. All in stark contrast to the more professional approach of the Wigan coach who has maintained a dignified silence. I do hope the rumours I've heard regarding his early departure and release from the one year contract extension are true. His time is up. Phil Clarke by plenty.

Quote ="RhinoNeil"Bluey speaks out! : www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... tlead.html'" More misplaced chelping and lack of rational leadership focus from an increasingly embarrassing coach ahead of the most important fixture of the season. The only surprise being that he hasn't yet set up a Twitter account to make a complete twit of himself on there too. He seriously needs to STFU. All in stark contrast to the more professional approach of the Wigan coach who has maintained a dignified silence. I do hope the rumours I've heard regarding his early departure and release from the one year contract extension are true. His time is up. Phil Clarke by plenty.

There was a poster on here, AP, who thought the sun shone out of Bluey's arris when Leeds appointed him.

I think I would edge towards your opinion more than his these days.

Not that I disagree that the Leeds coach would be best keeping quiet on these things, but

McLennan's comments in full:

"They are tasteless comments which really disappoint our club, I'm not impressed. I don't really need to say much to stick up for Danny McGuire because his deeds throughout his career speak for themselves. I defy you to go to any player in Super League and say that Danny McGuire is a dirty or cheating player. It's disappointing that he's come out of that major operation on Friday and his family have informed him that this has been written about him. We won't be using that as motivation, We don't get motivated by negative things. What we're motivated by is a desire to do well for each other and for Maggsy and Jamie Peacock."

Not exactly controversial this time. The worst he did was call Clarke's comments tasteless, which is not incorrect.

Well done McLennan for sticking up for his players.

Poor attempt at stirring there

Anyone that bother's to read the article will see there's nothing controversial in what McClennan says there - and I have little doubt he was asked a direct question about Clarke by the Journo that also wrote the article as "McClennan hits out"

McClennan says the team aren't motivated by negative things but all the same I'm sure it's doing no harm in creating a siege mentality.

I'm beginning to think Leeds could have handled this better. At least leave this sort of thing to GH who has experience of such matters with his various spats with Caisley and Hood.

Why would Michael Mcguire comment on something Phil Clarke said about Danny Mcguire?

I just like to draw attention my dignified silence on the relative morality of the bombing of Dresden and other things i had no vested interest in.

Sinfield's turn to chelp away at detractors [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/leeds/9017390.stmhere[/url

Not sure that "well tough" as a barb aimed at Leeds's detractors qualifies as 'chelping' or 'hitting out at detractors' all good for publicity

As for Phil Clarke's comments...just plain small minded and silly, not really worth getting too steamed up about IMHO

Michael Maguire (as opposed to Michael McGuire) hasn't commented on Danny McGuire (as opposed to Danny Maguire) either.

Please do try to contextually keep up.

If you'd bothered listening to the audio, the "Kevin Sinfield hits back at detractors" headline comes from the interviewer's lead "Some people from the outside are bored of Leeds Rhinos being in the Grand Final...".

Sinfield said that that's understandable, and that's how it felt when he was growing up when Wigan were in the CC final every year, but that it feels different from the inside, and that there are a lot of Leeds-born lads in the camp who are delighted to be in the position where others don't want them to get to the Grand Final because they've been there too much.

So that's what constitutes "chelping away". Do carry on though.

And the context was McClennans comment on Clarkes comment on Mcguire,

Not Mcguire's action. It seems you have changed the context because you see how irrelevant your comparison Michael Maguire was



Any idea why a uncertain adverb removes potential for offence yet?

Try telling the McClennan, Peacock and a host of other Leeds players twittering on about it.

These communal knee-jerk reactions to Clarke's comments are embarrassing.

Phil Clarke by plenty.

Players and coaching staff have more reason to get annoyed as the comments are aimed directly at their personal mate and colleague. If you deconstruct Clarke's witterings the notion he is proposing - that McGuire's career threatening injury is divine justice for an act of pretty minor 'cheating' (it wasn't cheating it was a foul - cheating implies a more considered, less spontaneous act) - then you have to wonder what the eejit Clarke would consider 'justice' for a more major act of real and systematic cheating? Like for example breaking the salary cap? If a club were to do that then all their playing staff and administrators should get the bubonic plague perhaps? As I say not worth getting exercised by...