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| Quote ="G1"Is a question I asked you, yes.
You said I asked you to watch it again, and you said
[size=200What the hell you are watching god only knows. But does not surprise me bearing in mind the player in question.
Buderus has both arms wrapped around the player at all times. At no stage does his arms or hands go between the players legs.[/size
You couldn't have been more definitive. Yet now you're knitting fog by saying I alleged the hands were between the legs at a certain stage and not another. I can understand why you're knitting fog but do you or do you not still stand by YOUR statement that
[size=200Buderus has both arms wrapped around the player at all times. At no stage does his arms or hands go between the players legs[/size'"
Jesus do you really need to be so childish, and I need to make it clearer for you.
The tackle made by Buderus, at ALL times he had the player wrapped up with both this arms round the player. AFTER hitting the ground and releasing the player his hand in pulling back goes between Prescotts legs. I repeat AFTER hitting the ground and RELEASING.
I am happy enough to stand by those comments, and you will find them absolutely correct.
NOW, are you saying that if a players hands goes between a players legs on the floor in the tackle, that he should be banned?
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| Do you 2 want to go outside and continue this????
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| Gotcha - stop biting.
I suspect G1 knows exactly the point you are making and has done for some time, but in typical "look at me, c*ck of the walk" fashion is now piling on the pedantry simply because it's you.
Do us all a favour and bring the matter to a close.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Gotcha - stop biting.
I suspect G1 knows exactly the point you are making and has done for some time, but in typical "look at me, c*ck of the walk" fashion is now piling on the pedantry simply because it's you.
Do us all a favour and bring the matter to a close.
Ta.'"
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Gotcha - stop biting.
I suspect G1 knows exactly the point you are making and has done for some time, but in typical "look at me, c*ck of the walk" fashion is now piling on the pedantry simply because it's you.
Do us all a favour and bring the matter to a close.
Ta.'"
Your wish is my command Sir.
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| Personally I think that the ban should stand, as that type of tackle is as dangerous as it gets. I do think that it is harsh to have been given during the play-offs after so many have gone unpunished through the regular season. The fact that over the season this offense being given a ban is an exception rather than a rule I would say teh RFL have to take a long look at themselves.
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| Clearly Colin has taken as many hits to the head as his rambling, stat obsessed offspring.
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| Not read the thread, just wanted to note that a ban is ridiculous. I understand that spear tackles are dangerous and need to be prevented....but this was more a case of the tackler at the top end (leuluai?) letting go as Buderus tackles around the waist, resulting in the tackled landing on his shoulders (not neck or head).
Disappointing that those on the panel don't see the difference in accidental and deliberate....especially from a player who is not known for dirty play.
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| He's appealed
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| Quote ="wertyuio"Not read the thread, just wanted to note that a ban is ridiculous. I understand that spear tackles are dangerous and need to be prevented....but this was more a case of the tackler at the top end (leuluai?) letting go as Buderus tackles around the waist, resulting in the tackled landing on his shoulders (not neck or head).
Disappointing that those on the panel don't see the difference in accidental and deliberate....especially from a player who is not known for dirty play.'"
Where he lands shouldn't be reflected in the punishment (or lack of), its just like punishing a high tackle that breaks a jaw more than a high tackle that doesn't
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| Remember folks, "at no stage does Buderus place his hands between the tackled players legs".
Screen dump taken from te game highlights shown at [urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=797[/url
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| Can't see anything on any websites about Danny B appealing ?
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| Quote ="richieA"Can't see anything on any websites about Danny B appealing ?'"
[urlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/10/09/15/RUGBYL_Leeds.html[/url
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| Quote ="G1"Remember folks, "at no stage does Buderus place his hands between the tackled players legs".
Screen dump taken from te game highlights shown at [urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=797[/url'"
I'm fairly certain nobody apart from you two actually cares.
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| Quote ="G1"Remember folks, "at no stage does Buderus place his hands between the tackled players legs".
Screen dump taken from te game highlights shown at [urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=797[/url'"
Never a 1 game ban in a million years. A fine and warning at best. End of.
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| Quote ="GCM1980"I'm fairly certain nobody apart from you two actually cares.'"
I am fairly certain the victim cares, the RFL Judiciary cares and that now our "indispensable hooker" is banned, he cares.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"I suspect G1 knows exactly the point you are making and has done for some time, but in typical "look at me, c*ck of the walk" fashion is now piling on the pedantry simply because it's you.
'" I do know exactly what he is talking about and it's hardly pedantry to refute his patently untrue statement that
Quote At no stage does his arms or hands go between the players legs.'"
"At No Stage" Andy, "At no stage".
FWIW, I don't agree with his fog knitting back track statement about when and how the hand now does appear between his legs but i am not going to get into that.
Suffice to say, if he wants to disagree with me and make patently untrue yet unequivocal statements I have the right to refute them. You may found it tedious but luckily it's not my responsibility to entertain accountants.
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| Quote ="G1"I am fairly certain the victim cares.'"
Ive heard he has had sleepless nights and is having councelling....get a grip ffs.
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| Quote ="G1"I am fairly certain the victim cares, the RFL Judiciary cares and that now our "indispensable hooker" is banned, he cares.'"
thaz funny G
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Where he lands shouldn't be reflected in the punishment (or lack of), its just like punishing a high tackle that breaks a jaw more than a high tackle that doesn't'"
That's a nonsensical comparison.
If the player landed on his back it's not a spear tackle...how he lands has everything to do with it.
Here is an example
[urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary_item.php?id=2235[/url
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| It wasn't a 'spear' tackle or even a 'dangerous throw.' (In my view)
He didn't lift the player after placing his hands between his legs.
Gotcha and G1 are funny and everyone can judge for themselves which one's a lawyer.
The tackle it most resembled for me was Coley on Delaney in the cup game at Headingley.
Coley received a 1 game ban for that, so did Buderus (at this point.)
However I wouldn't have handed out a ban for either as both were examples of dominant tackles where players end up being crashed into the ground by physics rather than design.
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| Quote ="tvoc"It wasn't a 'spear' tackle or even a 'dangerous throw.' (In my view)
He didn't lift the player after placing his hands between his legs.
Gotcha and G1 are funny and everyone can judge for themselves which one's a lawyer.
The tackle it most resembled for me was Coley on Delaney in the cup game at Headingley.
Coley received a 1 game ban for that, so did Buderus (at this point.)
However I wouldn't have handed out a ban for either as both were examples of dominant tackles'" A reasoned opinion as always brother TVOC.
I note your agreement with the blatantly obvious fact that he did place his hands between the legs and I also note that Buderus ban is consistent with the ban given to Coley for the same offence, despite the wailing and gnashing of teeth on here.
I just hope that Diskin and the team respond to Buderus' absence the same way he and they did last year, though it will be tougher without McGuire and peacock.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Ive heard he has had sleepless nights and is having councelling....get a grip ffs.'"
On that photo it certainly looks like Buderus is getting a grip.
Imagine if the perp was leon pryce. You lot would be up in arms.
Actually, maybe you're all as racist as those who berate TMFMISL.
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