Jack is also with show me the money. Neither the agency or th coaches at Leeds will deal with each other. Jack wants to stay, but Morley is the one trying to negotiate deal. Jack is not the only one with show me the money. McDermott wanted rid of all players with them, hence why changes were made in academy. Jack is hoping for three year deal.

I was just with Sutcliffes dad, and Alex has signed I think he said four year deal for first team. He was nearly drafted in for Wakefield game. He is with a different agency.

heard from a few in the game Hetherington won't talk to SMTM. pathetic when you consider what we could lose

So Morley has been brought in as some kind of mediator as well as a coach? Judging by the name of the agency, I can see why GH may not be their biggest fan

Morley has been bought in but not some sort of contract negotiator (do you really think he's got that in his locker???), people slag off GH, BMc and the club for not being keen on this particular agency but they have good reason not to be keen on them, very much of the football style money hungry who gives a damn if it's the right move for the player type agent....do well to to do as little business as possible with them.

It's got nothing to do with the money, despite the name, you are just assuming there. It is down to contract length, the club believe in long term from young age, where the agency advise different. The fallout with McDermott over this has been going on for eighteen months. Morley is in charge of the academy players now, and part of the reasoning was agent relations also.

Cameron Smith is also show me the money, as is another three players.

Oh I don't for a second doubt that your mate and others at Show me the Money are all about short contracts so that the can they go for big bucks later on. Very good reason they want shorter contracts even if you can't see it and it IS BECAUSE of the money. (Clue's in the name) Why tie up a player for 5 years when you can renegotiate after 2 years



All your rumours have clearly come from this agency and really their version of events isn't worth the steam off my pi$$.

Wind the neck in. I have nothing to do with anyone at this agency, and was nearly replying to posts about specific players. Burrow also works as an adviser to this agency too. As I said Cameron Smith is also show me the money, and he signed a four year deal. Of course the difference is it was a first team one. The difference is when they are first year professionals, Leeds want them to sign three year deals, where agents are recommending two year, hence why most were two years. And to balance, let's not forget why Leeds want it that way, so they can pay lower for longer. All players should not be the same, some are better than others.

I can understand why Leeds want longer, but they've also shown loyalty to players long term (for which they've been criticised for).....I can also see why agents want short deals and it's only for their own interests yet they've managed to pass it off to the gullible as Leeds being the bad guys.

Where has anyone said it has been passed off as bad guys? Also the contracts you talk about are first team, not academy. There is a difference. The game has changed, other clubs have moved with it. Which way is right is open to debate, but those are the hand dealt. My opinion is purely different players should be treated differently, priority should be ensuring the best players you have a shot at.

Does show me the money have any problems with other coaches? I don't know by the way. But they did have an issue with Leeds, and Hetherington made a change to alter that, probably with Burrow's influence.

You've passed Leeds off as the bad guys nearly every chance you've had thanks to the rumours you've got off your Show Me The Money mate.

Talking of 'right way" you were slating the club about the reserve league 12 months ago pointing out the league table. What's the value of a reserve team doing for Warrington and Leeds rigbt now looking at the league table???

You seem to be making things up as you go along here. I am assuming due to feeling embarrassed by your first post. To repeat, I have no rumour from show me the money whom I do not know, and was mearly pointing out a fact on the first post, in response to a post about Jack Walker and separately show me the money. I do however know very well two of their registered players, and as stated first post I also know very well Sutcliffe, whom repeated again is not with show me the money. If you can point out where I have posted something to the contrary to this then fair enough, but you seem to be just arguing something for the sake of it.

With Regards the reserve league, I have exactly the same opinion I had last year right now, and previous to last year. And by the end of the season I also think there will be a pattern to finishing positions in Super League. Not sure if that answers your point or not? But a nice moving of the goalposts all the same.

I don't get the obsession with a reserve competition. How is it going to improve young players when it just means young players are playing at a lower level for longer, and it takes better players out of the championship. I take the point about some players taking a little longer to develop, but just how many players are we talking about here to justify the creation of a lower standard competition?

I know obviously you'll say your "information" doesn't come from an agent....but it clearly does.

As for reserve league you were quite happy to tell us how the league table told a story 12 months ago. Leeds and Warrington's league position NOW tell a different story,

Do you know the reason why?

Because SMTM are just money grabbing football agent style w**kers, and are the ones who spread most of the "frightening" rumours you hear about on here because GH won't bend over for them.

nobody really knows, just they don't get on. the general feeling is both sides are at fault and its just developed and got more bitter. silly really from both sides as they need each other

says gh's spokesman

FWIW I have been in a conversation with Craig Harrison regarding how he prioritises the junior players that he represents and if i was a junior players parent then i would believe that he was clearly dead set as being after a short term contract reward for any players that were not being offered a top 25 place deal, This is clearly in the hope that they then progress and can then command a far higher fee (In theory he is clearly thinking that if they don't then progress to get a better deal then he's lost a small percentage of nearly now't) Where as if they do progress then he gets a percentage of a far higher ammount and will then also probably represent that player for the rest of their careers!

His tune certainly changes when the junior player is of the ilk of a Cameron Smith type of player as he certainly wants a longer term deal for the player and with caveats that include increased contract payments when his player plays X amount of first team games etc due to the number of interested clubs that are fighting for that junior players contract

My assessment of him would be that he is a total hypocrite,but that he is clearly looking out not only for himself and also for the player that he is representing

It is no wonder that clubs do not like dealing with him and would much rather that all junior players deal directly with the club

couldn't say if it's true but an ex player I work with, league and cup winner but not with leeds, says david howe is involved somehow and him and GH really don't like each other

Says someone who isn't daft enough to open his mouth and swallow anything a sports agent comes out with unlike yourself.

I was told, by someone who would have known, that these increased payments were a factor in McD's reluctance to blood youngsters. This was a couple of years back, mind, when we wouldn't have been much under the cap. Not sure it applies as much now.

Not sure what the problem is wrt different ilk of players getting different contracts both in length of time or grade of pay it happens in every team based sport.
Also any agent will always seek out the best possible deal for his client its a no brainer.
Finally if/when deals are not agreed then it can happen for any number of reasons for e.g Learmonth chased the £££ but Sutty stayed is that the agents fault? Is it GH's?
Lets put it this way Mags is with SMTUK as is Cam Smith & Oledzki so does the agent/GH get praise for those deals?
Im firmly of the belief you look to give the best possible deals to your best players both at 1st team level & Acadamy we look like we are trying to do that with certain players.
Finally M.Smith left & that was as much to do with GH &His grandad having a bust up wrt what was offered by us & Wire & not so much the agent.

see you haven't answered gotcha where he asks you to say where he has slagged leeds off in his post.

because you can't.

printer in making up stories and telling lies. again

doesn't GH pay all youngsters the same regardless of ability? no idea if it's true but that's the story

I think he used to & msy still do so wrt Acadamy contracts but Oledzki & Cam Smith im sure are on 1st Team contracts with no doubt certain app clauses etc.