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| The Huddersfield match was Matt Diskin's 200th start at hooker for Leeds.
Jamie Jones-Buchanan recent consecutive try-scoring run ended at four matches. The last forward to achieve that at Leeds was Ali Lauitiiti in 2004. The only other Leeds forward to manage a try in four consecutive appearances during the SL Era was Adrian Morley in 1998.
Looking forward to this week's Harlequin game:
As flagged up above it will be Danny McGuire's 200th Appearance for Leeds should he play.
He'll become the 7th Leeds player to reach the mark in the SL Era:
1 - Kevin Sinfield 316 (289 + 27)
2 - Keith Senior 296 (295 + 1)
= 3 - Francis Cummins 268 (255 + 13)
= 3 - Barrie McDermott 268 (190 + 78 )
5 - Rob Burrow 252 (180 + 72)
6 - Matt Diskin 219 (201 + 18 )
7 - Danny McGuire 199 (160 + 39)
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| Out of interest tvoc, where did you have Ryan Hall playing on Saturday night?
As has been mentioned, he was officially named at centre, with Gibson on the wing, but I don't think that's the way they lined up at all.
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"Out of interest tvoc, where did you have Ryan Hall playing on Saturday night?
As has been mentioned, he was officially named at centre, with Gibson on the wing, but I don't think that's the way they lined up at all.'"
I lined them up where they played at kick-off. Ashley Gibson at right centre and Ryan Hall on the left wing.
The beauty of keeping my own unofficial records is that they can reflect actual events rather than imaginary ones as per Saturday night.
It appears that Opta haven't bought the official teamsheet line up either according to [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=2918&hs2=2009&hp2=1836&stat=tries&season=2009these[/url.
What they term as 'position' changes when players are played in a different starting spot, so they also consider Hall started on the left wing and Gibson started at right centre.
Peter Smith has also ignored the teamsheet listing [url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leeds-rhinos-news/Leeds-Rhinos-How-they-rated.5184973.jphere[/url so it appears I may be in with the majority view on this occasion.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I lined them up where they played at kick-off. Ashley Gibson at right centre and Ryan Hall on the left wing.
The beauty of keeping my own unofficial records is that they can reflect actual events rather than imaginary ones as per Saturday night.
It appears that Opta haven't bought the official teamsheet line up either according to [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=2918&hs2=2009&hp2=1836&stat=tries&season=2009these[/url.
What they term as 'position' changes when players are played in a different starting spot, so they also consider Hall started on the left wing and Gibson started at right centre.
Peter Smith has also ignored the teamsheet listing [url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leeds-rhinos-news/Leeds-Rhinos-How-they-rated.5184973.jphere[/url so it appears I may be in with the majority view on this occasion.'"
could sky just have ed up?
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"could sky just have ed up?'"
My guess on this is that Leeds filled out the teamsheet with Hall at centre, and Sky just went off that.
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| Do Sky ever get it wrong ???
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| More [url=http://www.therhinos.co.uk/rugby/110.php?section=formation&fixid=76765evidence[/urlpointing to a mis-print on the teamsheet submitted to Sky.
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| Quote ="Kevin Sinfield" We've got some good young kids coming through, but we haven't got a massive squad and we've got people carrying injuries. To have a weekend when we can get them right – or get them nearly right – will be invaluable."'"
A while to wait but the Castleford game will be Brian McClennan's 50th in charge of Leeds at a ground he has yet to win on.
Leeds require three - two pointers to register 2000 during the SL Era in all comps.
Jamie Jones-Buchanan's next start will be his 100th in the SL Regular Rounds. He'll become the 15th Leeds player to reach the mark, the last being Gareth Ellis in his final Regular Round match for Leeds.
Two fairly unusual bench sitters at Murrayfield in Danny McGuire and Matt Diskin. The last time (prior to Sunday) that McGuire warmed the bench was 40 games ago while for Diskin it was 33 games ago. The last time they shared the bench was 117 games ago.
Keith Senior has two landmarks coming up shortly. His next appearance will be number 299 for Leeds so the Hull game at Headingley has a good chance of being number 300, where he'll become only the second player to reach the mark at Leeds during the SL Era. Assuming he starts at Castleford and at home to Hull, his following start (Les Catalans Away) will be his 300th for Leeds during the SL Era and he'll be the first player to reach that landmark for the club.
Quote ="Phil Cookson" Good old Derek Noonan. '" RIP
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| Keith Senior, it appears has three personal landmarks to reach shortly.
1 - His 300th Appearance for Leeds (next up match if he plays)
2 - His 300th Start for Leeds (the game after if he starts in both)
3 - His career 500th Appearance in five games time (this one according to Sky's commentary from Castleford last Friday.)
Senior's Totals For Leeds are:
SL Reg Rds: Pl 243 + 1, Tries 132, Points 528
SL Play Offs: Pl 19 + 0, Tries 6, Points 24
Challenge Cup: Pl 33 + 0, Tries 11, Points 44
World Club Challenge: Pl 3 + 0, Tries 1, Points 4
Total: Pl 298 + 1, Tries 150, Points 600
Senior's season by season Appearances (Tries):
1999 - 3 (0)
2000 - 35 (17)
2001 - 28 (16)
2002 - 32 + 1 (24)
2003 - 32 (12)
2004 - 30 (13)
2005 - 29 (25)
2006 - 33 (16)
2007 - 30 (7)
2008 - 34 (15)
2009 - 12 (5)
Kevin Sinfield's winning penalty at Castleford saw him top 100 points for the seventh successive season.
Sinfield's season by season Appearances (Points):
1997 - 0 + 2 (0)
1998 - 0 + 2 (4)
1999 - 9 + 12 (32)
2000 - 19 + 7 (28 )
2001 - 32 + 1 (99)
2002 - 30 + 2 (96)
2003 - 34 + 1 (273)
2004 - 31 (323)
2005 - 31 (324)
2006 - 26 (223)
2007 - 32 (305)
2008 - 34 (293)
2009 - 14 (101)
Total: Pl 292 + 27, Tries 58, Goals 925, Drop Goals 19, Points 2,101
Edit: Just placing this here so I can find it again.
Quote ="tvoc"As Keith approaches his 500th 1st grade competitive fixture
I thought I'd mark his 300th Appearance for Leeds with a breakdown for the club:
Played 299+1, Won 209, Drawn 6, Lost 85, Tries 151+1 Penalty try, Points 608
By Competition:
SL Reg Rds: Pl 244 + 1, Tries 134, Points 536
SL Play Offs: Pl 19 + 0, Tries 6, Points 24
Challenge Cup: Pl 33 + 0, Tries 11, Points 44
World Club Challenge: Pl 3 + 0, Tries 1, Points 4
Season by season - Appearances (Tries):
1999 - 3 (0)
2000 - 35 (17)
2001 - 28 (16)
2002 - 32 + 1 (24)
2003 - 32 (12)
2004 - 30 (13)
2005 - 29 (25)
2006 - 33 (16)
2007 - 30 (7)
2008 - 34 (15)
2009 - 13 (7)
By opposition: PLayed, (Won, Drawn, Lost) - =blueTries
Bradford - 37, (17, 1, 19) - =blue14
St Helens - 37, (16, 0, 21) - =blue14
Wigan - 30, (14, 3, 13) - =blue13
Hull - 27, (19, 1, 7) - =blue19
London/Quins - 27, (23, 0, 4) - =blue17
Wakefield - 23, (20, 0, 3) - =blue16
Warrington- 22, (16, 1, 5) - =blue14+1 Penalty Try
Castleford - 21, (16, 0, 5) - =blue12
Huddersfield - 18, (17, 0, 1) - =blue3
Salford - 15, (14, 0, 1) - =blue6
Les Catalans - 8, (7, 0, 1) - =blue4
Widnes - 7+1, (5, 0, 3) - =blue3
Halifax- 7, (6, 0, 1) - =blue8
Hull KR - 6, (6, 0, 0) - =blue3
Celtic - 2, (2, 0, 0) - =blue1
Leigh - 2, (2, 0, 0) - =blue2
Canterbury - 1, (1, 0, 0) - =blue0
Dewsbury - 1, (1, 0, 0) - =blue0
Featherstone - 1, (1, 0, 0) - =blue0
Manly - 1, (0, 0, 1) - =blue1
Melbourne - 1, (1, 0, 0) - =blue0
Rochdale - 1, (1, 0, 0) - =blue0
SM Pia - 1, (1, 0, 0) - =blue0
Swinton- 1, (1, 0, 0) - =blue1
Toulouse - 1, (1, 0, 0) - =blue0
Whitehaven - 1, (1, 0, 0) - =blue0
Cherish the big fella while you can.'"
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| Leeds SL Era Record V London/Harlequins
All Comps: All Fixtures
Played 37, Won 29, Drawn 1, Lost 7, Pts For 1248, Pts Agst 656 ..... Avg Scr (34-18 ) ..... 80%
All Comps: Away
Played 13, Won 9, Drawn 1, Lost 3, Pts For 430, Pts Agst 274 ..... Avg Scr (33-21) ..... 73%
SL Reg Rds:
Played 32, Won 24, Drawn 1, Lost 7, Pts For 1071, Pts Agst 572 ..... Avg Scr (33-18 ) ..... 77%
SL Reg Rds: Away
Played 12, Won 8, Drawn 1, Lost 3, Pts For 394, Pts Agst 248 ..... Avg Scr (33-21) ..... 71%
All Comps: At The Stoop
Played 7, Won 5, Drawn 0, Lost 2, Pts For 226, Pts Agst 143 ..... Avg Scr (32-20) ..... 71%
Leeds' Biggest Win: 64 - 6 (Headingley - 9th April 2005)
Leeds' Biggest Win Away: 0-60 (The Stoop - 25th March 2006)(Also Widest Margin)
London/Harlequin Biggest Win: 40-16 (The Stoop - 27th April 1997)(Also Widest Margin)
Rob Burrow's next start will be his 150th of the SL Regular Rounds. In doing so he'll become the 6th Leeds player to reach the mark for the club.
1 - Keith Senior 246
2 - Kevin Sinfield 240
3 - Francis Cummins 204
4 - Matt Diskin 163
5 - Barrie McDermott 154
6 - Rob Burrow 149
Burrow is the only Leeds player of the SL Era to score over 100 tries and kick more than 100 goals.
All Comps: 118 Tries, 132 Goals, 2 Drop Goals, 738 Points
SL (inc Play offs): 102 Tries, 108 Goals, 2 Drop Goals, 626 Points
He now needs four tries to complete the set
SL Reg Rds: 96 Tries, 102 Goals, 1 Drop Goals, 589 Points
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Kevin Sinfield has successfully kicked his last 16 attempts at goal.
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Quote ="tvoc"Re-Keith Senior
3 - His career 500th Appearance in five games time (this one according to Sky's commentary from Castleford last Friday.)
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This one must be nearly here now. Hopefully the club will flag up this major landmark achievement.
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| Quote ="tvoc"
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Kevin Sinfield has successfully kicked his last 16 attempts at goal.
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Make that 24. Whats the Leeds/SL record. I remember him being close a couple of years ago, cant remember whether he got it in the end
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Make that 24. Whats the Leeds/SL record. I remember him being close a couple of years ago, cant remember whether he got it in the end'"
Dont know if its still the record but in 2001 Henry Paul kicked 35 consecutive kicks for the Bulls
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Make that 24. Whats the Leeds/SL record. I remember him being close a couple of years ago, cant remember whether he got it in the end'"
I only started keeping track of the missed kicks in 2004. This current run of 24 straight is Sinfield's best since then. His previous best being 22 at the end of the 2006 season.
Quote ="BigM"Dont know if its still the record but in 2001 Henry Paul kicked 35 consecutive kicks for the Bulls'"
I don't think that's been bettered over here at the top level.
Barry Eaton and Hazam El Masri are also around that mark in their respective comps.
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| Tvoc, can you supply me with Danny Maguire's scoring record against London?
He alawys seems to get on the score sheet against them.
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"Tvoc, can you supply me with Danny Maguire's scoring record against London?
He alawys seems to get on the score sheet against them.'"
Danny McGuire:
V London Broncos - Played 7 + 3, Tries 13, Goals 0, Drop Goals 1, Points 53
V Harlequins RL - Played 9 + 0, Tries 13, Goals 0, Drop Goals 0, Points 52
Total - Played 16 + 3, Tries 26, Goals 0, Drop Goals 1, Points 105
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| Quote ="tvoc"Danny McGuire:
V London Broncos - Played 7 + 3, Tries 13, Goals 0, Drop Goals 1, Points 53
V Harlequins RL - Played 9 + 0, Tries 13, Goals 0, Drop Goals 0, Points 52
Total - Played 16 + 3, Tries 26, Goals 0, Drop Goals 1, Points 105'"
5 pts a game is not a bad return rate
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"5 pts a game is not a bad return rate'"
Indeed, better than a try every time we play them.
And thanks TVOC, you remain, as ever, our king of stats.
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| I never thought I would do this but if it's going to be a new feature for the thread how can I not include Bradford.
Leeds SL Era Record V Bradford
All Comps: All Fixtures
Played 51, Won 20, Drawn 1, Lost 30, Pts For 1046, Pts Agst 1266 ..... Avg Scr (21-25 ) ..... 40%
All Comps: Headingley
Played 20, Won 8, Drawn 0, Lost 12, Pts For 439, Pts Agst 532 ..... Avg Scr (22-27) ..... 40%
SL Reg Rds:
Played 40, Won 17, Drawn 1, Lost 22, Pts For 892, Pts Agst 1029 ..... Avg Scr (22-26 ) ..... 44%
SL Reg Rds: Headingley
Played 19, Won 8, Drawn 0, Lost 11, Pts For 427, Pts Agst 506 ..... Avg Scr (22-27) ..... 42%
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Leeds' Biggest Win: 45 - 16 (Headingley - 18th June 1999)
Leeds' Biggest Win At Headingley: See Above
Leeds' Widest Winning Margin: 44 - 2 (Headingley - 20th March 200icon_cool.gif
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Bradford Biggest Win: 62-18 (Valley Parade - 15th September 2001)
Bradford's Biggest Win At Headingley: 18 - 56 (4th August 1996)
Bradford's Widest Winning Margin: 54 - 8 (Odsal - 24th May 1996)
Bradford's Widest Winning Margin At Headingley: 2 - 44 (19th May 2000)
[size=75I hope Mick doesn't see any of this.[/size
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| Quote ="tvoc"I never thought I would do this but if it's going to be a new feature for the thread how can I not include Bradford.
Leeds SL Era Record V Bradford
All Comps: All Fixtures
Played 51, Won 20, Drawn 1, Lost 30, Pts For 1046, Pts Agst 1266 ..... Avg Scr (21-25 ) ..... 40%
All Comps: Headingley
Played 20, Won 8, Drawn 0, Lost 12, Pts For 439, Pts Agst 532 ..... Avg Scr (22-27) ..... 40%
SL Reg Rds:
Played 40, Won 17, Drawn 1, Lost 22, Pts For 892, Pts Agst 1029 ..... Avg Scr (22-26 ) ..... 44%
SL Reg Rds: Headingley
Played 19, Won 8, Drawn 0, Lost 11, Pts For 427, Pts Agst 506 ..... Avg Scr (22-27) ..... 42%
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Leeds' Biggest Win: 45 - 16 (Headingley - 18th June 1999)
Leeds' Biggest Win At Headingley: See Above
Leeds' Widest Winning Margin: 44 - 2 (Headingley - 20th March 200icon_cool.gif
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Bradford Biggest Win: 62-18 (Valley Parade - 15th September 2001)
Bradford's Biggest Win At Headingley: 18 - 56 (4th August 1996)
Bradford's Widest Winning Margin: 54 - 8 (Odsal - 24th May 1996)
Bradford's Widest Winning Margin At Headingley: 2 - 44 (19th May 2000)
[size=75I hope Mick doesn't see any of this.[/size'"
Is that correct that both Leeds and Bradford's widest winning margin at Headingley is exactly the same score (44-2). What a big coincidence.
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| Quote ="finglas"Is that correct that both Leeds and Bradford's widest winning margin at Headingley is exactly the same score (44-2). What a big coincidence.'"
What can't speak, can't lie. Bit of a twilight zone moment.
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| Quote ="tvoc"What can't speak, can't lie. Bit of a twilight zone moment.'" Even more of a coincidence as the losing teams didn't even manage a try.
Lets hope Leeds get it out of the twilight zone. (with a win of course)
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| Quote ="finglas"Even more of a coincidence as the losing teams didn't even manage a try.
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But went for a penalty when the game looked like it may be competitive
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"But went for a penalty when the game looked like it may be competitive'"
Leeds were 0-14 down when Harris took the two on 24 minutes. The goal was a significant one as it took him to 1,000 points for Leeds as he became only the 10th player to reach that mark for the club at the time.
When Deacon kicked his goal last season at Headingley it gave Bradford the lead for the only time in the match.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"But went for a penalty when the game looked like it may be competitive'" My point is how often is it that Leeds or Bradford don't score a try in a game.
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| So tvoc, which players have more than 1,000 points for Leeds? Sinfield, Harris, Holmes, Eric Harris and Atky (basically from 3-point tries). I think I read David Creasser did as well, which surprised me.
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