Great start!...

we look a disorganised shambles, like a pub team.
brown is, and has always been, a liability. he is garbage.
snodgrass obviously doesn't want to be there

Oh dear....wonder if anyone were tempted enough to take the 16-1 on offer for relegation before today?

3 down now, complete shambles

Absolutely dreadful at the back today. Clueless in attack as well.

pile of sh*t

This is what happens when you don't strengthen the team

Been given nothing to spend. However any manager worth his salt makes a team organised and hard to beat. We are a joke

The former is no change from last year and the latter was entirely predictable with a long term injury to our only quality centre forward...

....and yet we've done nothing to address the weaknesses in the off season

With Becchio and Somma both out, we are in desperate need of more striking options - neither McCormack or Paynter are good enough. The only crumb of hope I have is that we were rubbish on the first day of the season last year too, and things got a lot better.....

My early prediction for the season...Bates to sack Grayson as a scapegoat by November

Think you could be right. I'm not convinced by Grayson anyway

I'm not so confident for the upcoming cup game against tty little Bradford now

Not good enough, but we will get better. The major difference today was finishing - they scored 3 very good goals with shots that couldn't really have been hit much better - our one decent chance from Howson was hit very well but went straight at the keeper, and the least said about Paynter's effort the better - despite being clean through I never though for a second that he'd score.

To their credit, Southampton played pretty well - there will be much worse teams in the league than them this year. We badly need one or two more signings before the end of the transfer window otherwise it's going to be a mid table struggle. I don't see us being relegated though.

Acres of empty space between halfway and the penalty box. Defensive midfield still the problem, as anyone who's seen Utd even occasionally over the last few years would know.

But, hey. Premiership income and League One wages and transfers are a winning formula for Cayman Islands branch on the LUFC supporters club.

I look forward to seeing the David Conn BBC documentary that the "owners" are so bothered about.

I think Grayson is in a pretty good position ATM

How can you sack a manger that has had no money to spend?

If Bates sacks him, then which manager in his right mind would come to the club?
I'd bet that it would have to be one that is out of work

lets hope our defence is better tomorrow !

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying he should be sacked.

It's part of Bates' modus operandi - its all about divide and conquer and Bates will need a scapegoat

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He really isn't according to what I've been hearing about his personal life and thats the reason the rumour about giving him the first 5 games came about. Should all come out in next few weeks!

What have you heard?

We have had over 3 months to sort the defence out and if anything yesterday looked worse than last season. A loaned centre back playing left back, a centre back "cult hero" that has not played seriously for over a year, another centre back that shouldn't play for another year and a right back that is average at best. Couple that with no support from midfield and it shows how deep the problem is.

All summer on message boards the fans have been divided over Bates - yesterday in the ground there was not much division and a lot of anger, and a few more performances like that and it can only get worse

I'll pm you. Basically Leeds see this as gross misconduct and if we have a crap start to the season (which looks likely) they'll sack him without paying him a penny in compo

C'mon Gandy spill the beans.

Can I have a PM too please...........

I'll send you all a message after I get back from todays game, give me a few hours!

May i have one too kind sir!.