On this we can agree. Myler has been a massive disappointment. Sutcliffe gets repeatedly slated on here but Myler seems to get off Scot free. Are you still bigging him up him as a brilliant player? After we signed him last year I watched his games for Catalan and everything went through Walsh. Myler was a bit part player, it's becoming easy to see why.

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And sacking BM and appointing Sinfield has improved that? If a change was to be made it should have been done at the end of the season.

What ever are you talking about? You speak as though you are a regular on the training field saying things does not make them true!

You state "the culture instilled in them by McDermott". Is this the same culture that enabled the team under BMD to win a record number of Grand Finals/Cup wins?

Agree 100%. I've heard/read people saying Myler has been excellent and possible player of the year yet we are a team without structure, organisation, game-management, creativity, a consistently effective kicking game, and good options on the last tackle. These should come from our half backs, but we haven't got a stand off, and the scrum half doesn't provide them either.

Totally agree re: Myler, From an organisational point of view totally anonymous, an average player, but, no other option.

No wrong. It shows the dressing room has not recovered from the massive slide we were on.

He’s actually just turned 19 not 20.

Didnt Golding get injured against london?

To be fair to Sutcliffe his goal kicking is the one thing you can’t give him stick about, since Sinfield joined he’s been kicking very well.

Not to be pedantic, but he is 19 not 20, and only just turned 19, so the previous poster was more correct.

Goulding does not have in his locker in the slightest that quick pass that Walker did yesterday for the try, and nor is he anything close defensively from fullback as you seem to believe.

Physically, there is nothing in them, certainly Golding goes back more in the tackle than the other from a running the ball point of view.

Anyway, fullback is absolutely the least of our problems.

No wrong, you would expect an immediate reaction if only in the short-term. We have deteriorated.

Totally agree, reckon Golding would have saved at least 2 tries yesterday and that would have won us the game. Like to see cameron smith back in the side and Sutcliffe just wants binning off full stop. Thought Thompson played well, more off the same please.
Don’t know what as happened to Singleton but not super league standard at the minute, peteru must start.

This ^

Our soft middle is, I think our attack has actually improved but our defence is laughable.

Also I think that win for Hull KR will keep them up but they were far from brilliant, they did well to come back but their first try was a gift and vai vai should not be scoring from that distance with 3 leeds ‘defenders’ on him

Can you provide evidence that "corporate sponsors were turning their back on the club" and if indeed they were that this was due to our record breaking coach? Or is this just an opinion?

The Leeds website records Walkers birthdays as 08/08/1999

You must be blind if you think we are worse. I think it is just a realisation from some people of just how bad we are, arrogantly not realising it earlier. We have been this bad for months.

Exactly, 19 then just turned.

What is Walker's date of birth?

On Golding I totally disagree with your assessment and you keep overlooking Walker' defensive errors.

Don't get me wrong, I rate Walker as a big future prospect, however I think his sidestep and passing would be more effective at halfback than running against a wall of opposition tacklers.

Are you ok this morning? You do know its 2018 don’t you?

No we were both a year out

I was 23 days out

you forgot to add the award winning coach who picked injured players, picked players who weren't playing well, had no rotation or resting and oversaw the start of the rot. hes as much to blame as Hetherington us

If he keeps saying it on enough different threads he thinks it will suddenly become accepted wisdom/fact.

The club doesn't make decisions on the coaching staff based on a phone call from Berry's or Chadwick Lawrence.

I've just spent 5 minutes reading an argument over jack walkers exact birth date. It's not just the first team that have gone to the dogs. The comments on here get worse each day.

It was hardly an argument, I just hadnt realised that Walker had recently had a birthday, Juan just didn’t realise what year we are currently in