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| Quote ="Rugbylad7"I'm just saying give them time to turn it around, I'm not saying keep players that are past their best like a few probably are but they still shouldn't be booed, they're not making mistakes on purpose. I just think its dis loyal.'"
It's not dis loyal. Dis loyal is not turning up the week later.
I boo'd them off at half time to show my discontent at the effort they were putting in, then cheered them back onto the pitch for the second half as if to say... "Clean slate boys, you know how we felt about the first half, now we're behind you for the second half!".
Next week is a new game, and I shall be giving them the loyalty they deserve and cheering as loud as I always have to show my support, but they can't get away with charging people to watch them just not give a sh*t. They're better than that, and they, and we know it.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"My dad always taught me; it doesn't matter if you lose as long as you try your best.
People are not booing because we're losing, they're booing because we're showing little to no effort.'"
Correct. I also recall in JP's book saying that in 2006 towards the end of the season when we hit a slump that the team were desperate to get out of it so did more and more training, fitness sessions etc and went away from the tried and tested, taking the stick instead of the proverbial carrot is the analogy i recall him using, looks like history is repeating itself.
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| perhaps the players need one of these to get back on track...[url=http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/notw/nol_sport/1272910/Castlefords-Ryan-McGoldrick-builds-pole-dance-club-in-his-back-garden.htmlOutback[/url
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| Quote ="roger_r"perhaps the players need one of these to get back on track...[url=http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/notw/nol_sport/1272910/Castlefords-Ryan-McGoldrick-builds-pole-dance-club-in-his-back-garden.htmlOutback[/url
its worked for Cas'"
A free trial for News of the World?! Can't see how that would help.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"A free trial for News of the World?! Can't see how that would help.
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****** it was working earlier.... basically its a £15k shed/bar/nightclub that Ryan McGoldrick has built in his garden. But since having an opening night for players/wives/girlfriends, he has now added pole dancing to it.
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| Quote ="bjs16"I for one is looking forward to this derby for once in along time the 2 teams are even although its not for both teams playing fantastic rugby but 2 teams struggling so am hoping more rhinos fans are going to make the effort and turn out in the thousands and support the lads and help them get through this very tough patch instead of booing there own players off the pitch which i find discrasful so lets get our voices ready to roar on the lads on thursday to a win and kick start our season
COME ON YOU RHINOS MOT'"
At least we now know what Brian McD is up to during the week!
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| Quote ="Beastwood"I go both ways on this issue.
1) This team is still very much the history making team that won 3 in a row. Boo-ing doesn't help things get back on track this season - we know they are capable of more, so let's get behind them and hope to see it again.
2) This team is still very much the history making team that won 3 in a row. We should be expecting better performances that what we're being shown so far.
I don't think it's fair to class all people who boo as glory hunters however.'"
I sort of agree. I personally dont boo, but not all people who boo are glory fans. My old man doesnt boo, but he shouts etc at the players (quite embarrassing sometimes.) he has been going 70yrs. Not a glory fan.
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| Its your money and you can boo if you want to. It is easier to be negative than positive but i just think that it boils down to frustration really no malice.
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| Quote ="Jamie B"Its your money and you can boo if you want to. It is easier to be negative than positive but i just think that it boils down to frustration really no malice.'"
Agree, Its not really me to boo, but I can sort of understand people doing it. And it isnt very cheap anymore. Think it does boil down to frustration, lots of money being spent, and people thinking they have "paid out all this money and they dont look like there even trying"
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| I know this is a Rhinos matter, but I think across all sport you will find supporters are a lot quicker to criticise a team for a poor performance than applaud them for a good one. If you look at most threads on blogs and on match reports on local paper websites the amount of comments after a loss tends to outweigh those when the team wins. Unfortunately this seems to be the way. I am obviously not saying this is always the case, but more often than not I think it probably is.
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| I hope we win tonight. If we win by definition we should have played better. As McD said the most worrying thing about the last two results has been the standard of performance.
As for booing. It's something that I don't do as I don't think I should boo a team that I support, however, I would not condemn anyone that booed at the end of the game. I think the booing at the Huddersfield game was more a show of discontent than abuse. I have been at Elland Rd when the crowd has been far more negative for less reason, I remember the Armfield out chants.
I hope we are all on this board tonight congratulating a great performance and result.
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"I hope we win tonight. If we win by definition we should have played better. As McD said the most worrying thing about the last two results has been the standard of performance.
As for booing. It's something that I don't do as I don't think I should boo a team that I support, however, I would not condemn anyone that booed at the end of the game. I think the booing at the Huddersfield game was more a show of discontent than abuse. I have been at Elland Rd when the crowd has been far more negative for less reason, I remember the Armfield out chants.
I hope we are all on this board tonight congratulating a great performance and result.'"
So do I!! but I just dont know. shall have to see, looking forward to the game though!
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| The only thing that matters is the performance, get that right and the result will naturally follow.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"The only thing that matters is the performance, get that right and the result will naturally follow.'"
Its in the paper but not the YEP wbsite. interview with BMD Basically saying we will turn it around. which is all fair comment but the bit that troubled me was "Mcdermott has changed rhinos style of play, encouraging a more expansive brand of rugby and he is in no doubt that his approach is right".
Suppose he has confidence in his methods which is positive, but this open brand of rugby needs tweeking IMO.
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| BMD is the type of person that if he believes in something, no matter what the evidence it is failing, he will stick to it until it kills him. Very determined or stubborn? You decide.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"BMD is the type of person that if he believes in something, no matter what the evidence it is failing, he will stick to it until it kills him. Very determined or stubborn? You decide.'"
Think i would come down on the side of stubborn. good to be determined, but sometimes things need changing slightly, and if there is evidence its failing its just stubborn not to acknowlege it.
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| At the end of the day Leeds Rhinos are in the entertainment business - if you went to a concert and the singer could not remember the words you would certainly express your anger.
So players are incapable of carrying out basic skills and we should just applaud as if they are playing high level razzle dazzle stuff - this is the real world, if you don't deliver at work would you expect some home truths?
These are highly paid grown men - not kids - they need to understand what customers expect just like any other business.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"At the end of the day Leeds Rhinos are in the entertainment business - if you went to a concert and the singer could not remember the words you would certainly express your anger.
So players are incapable of carrying out basic skills and we should just applaud as if they are playing high level razzle dazzle stuff - this is the real world, if you don't deliver at work would you expect some home truths?
These are highly paid grown men - not kids - they need to understand what customers expect just like any other business.'"
And that is what's going wrong within our sport, its turning into busineses rather than sporting clubs
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| Can't make it tonight due to other commitments which is a shame do not remember the last one I missed at Osdal. I will of course be able to see some of the game on TV when I get home and will be cheering the lads come what may. As with other posters would never boo my team but will give them plenty of noise and also think you pay your money an can boo to show dicontent if you like.
I believe we just need awin to get us started so will except it however it comes tonight.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"And that is what's going wrong within our sport, its turning into busineses rather than sporting clubs'"
Lawrie perhaps if clubs were treated as businesses and not sporting clubs less of them would get into financial dificulties?
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| Quote ="digger47"Can't make it tonight due to other commitments which is a shame do not remember the last one I missed at Osdal. I will of course be able to see some of the game on TV when I get home and will be cheering the lads come what may. As with other posters would never boo my team but will give them plenty of noise and also think you pay your money an can boo to show dicontent if you like.
I believe we just need awin to get us started so will except it however it comes tonight.'"
Thinking about it could be a good game tonight, both teams got walloped last week and will be looking for big improvements tonight, Just hope we are on the right side of the result.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Lawrie perhaps if clubs were treated as businesses and not sporting clubs less of them would get into financial dificulties?'"
Fair point, I just wish results mattered on the pitch rather than off it
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Its in the paper but not the YEP wbsite. interview with BMD Basically saying we will turn it around. which is all fair comment but the bit that troubled me was "Mcdermott has changed rhinos style of play, encouraging a more expansive brand of rugby and he is in no doubt that his approach is right".
Suppose he has confidence in his methods which is positive, but this open brand of rugby needs tweeking IMO.'"
He is right, but you need the right tools to do it. At the moment it's like building a shed with a hammer, a stanley knife, bluetack, and a tree.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"Fair point, I just wish results mattered on the pitch rather than off it
but eh, thats life'"
The two are very closely linked - no surprise Herr Hetherington was at the training ground on Saturday and in the press this week.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"He is right, but you need the right tools to do it. At the moment it's like building a shed with a hammer, a stanley knife, bluetack, and a tree.'"
IMO not sure he is right. Yes i want to see expansive rugby but not every set! think he should be going for expansive play at the right times in the right places on the pitch, not every single play!
I think if we first earned the right to play with flair we would go alot better.
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