It was Joel who caused the fighting afterwards.

As has been pointed out J.Tomkins started the fighting and also no Leeds players were stood over Golden boy giving it large while he was in agony but well done in missing the point completely and reffering to a totally different incident.

Not a great example mate, as Tony said, it was Joel Tomkins who waded in and started the handbags... so we don't have to, your short memory did it for us!

Because Ablett was stood over Sam in the same way that Riddell was stood over McGuire, is that not the same? And then which Leeds player came and pushed Joel? JJB who clearly wasn't concerned for S Tomkins injury. Leeds players are no better but carry on defending them all you want. I wonder if Keith Senior was concerned after he had kicked out and injured Joel Tomkins in the cup game?

What a load of sh#te go to that video site and look what really happens he's jumped on straight away by J.Tompkins plus S.Tomkins got up more or less straight away and wasn't even hurt let alone in agony and obviously injured!

The Leeds players are not angels by any stretch of the imagination but I can't remember another occasion in all my time of watching RL when a player has sprinted half way across the field to sledge an opposing player lying injured on the ground.

Keep digging mate, you are making yourself look OWNED you don't need us to do it for you! Ablett turned and looked at the ref, he knew he had made a poor tackle, he didn't stand over Sam at all or even say anything to him, brother Joel (the most penalised man in Super League) came running at full tilt at Ablett... but listen, please don't let the facts get in the way of your warped version of events!

Sam was clearly in pain after it, just because he got back up after it all kicked off shows how tough he is. he stated after the game that the pain was still there. I notice McGuire coming in after the tackle had been made as well, not very nice when the player was already down and the penalty had already been blown. Why did Mcguire need to do that?

You see mini, it's 2010 and you can't get away with telling blatant lies when we have [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4ii1ZKjQ5wvideo[/url evidence of just about everything nowdays, please show me where Ablett it stood lauding it over Stomkins please.

Yes JJB hit Joel after Joel and leuluai had both hit Ablett, I notice Joel concern for his younger brother.

Any more lies up your sleeve?

I agree, after re watching it, Ablett doesn't have chance to stand over S Tomkins. McGuire however doesn't do himself any favours at all when watching it back. The penalty has already been blown and still goes over the top of Sam when he's been cleaned out!

So now you admit to spouting bul you shift the subject to McGuire who came in and did nothing at all illegal to complete the tackle.

Read above, however McGuire knew it was already a penalty, didn't need to go in after it at all. Also the Leeds fans seem pretty happy with Abletts tackle after it, hardly sportsman like.

I hope Joel tries to take the law into his own hands on Saturday.

It will help us.

Alongside that of Super League Thickest Player (Andy Coley)

Shows how little you know about Andy Coley.

Did he?





After Joel and Leaulai pushed Ablett ...right? And he didn't push him....JJB OWNED him





Please forgive JJB for defending his team mate instead showing of concern for the soft co(k Tomkins

But you said "[iBecause Ablett was stood over Sam in the same way that Riddell was stood over McGuire, is that not the same[/i?"

So did you just make that up or is that actually how the incident looks in your memory?

Why you are trying to blame anything on McGuire is beyond me, he completes the (very poor) tackle on Tomkins about 1.5 seconds after Ablett hit him, all he does is put his body weight on him, I doubt he could hear the whistle for the Wigan fans so his other option was to "not" play to the whistle and let Tomkins make extra yards.

Stop trying to be your dad, he's much better than you at this

You are a classic numpty mate! McGuire does what any professional player would have done, he simply went to complete the tackle. Tomkins was fine and McGuire can and should not allow a player of Sam Tomkins ability to potentially get to his feet to continue play, which he clearly could have done the way he sprung to his feet and joined the handbags!

I've already accepted after re watching the video I was wrong regarding the incident. However it still stands that none of them including McGuire shown any concern for Sam Tomkins who potentially could have had his jaw broken with Abletts challenge. Would that be correct?

I know he gives away lots of needless penalties away and has a nice collection of yellow and red cards.

Player.

Why should they? Its rugby league not tiddly winks.

The chance they had to do that was taken away after Joel and Thomas attacked Ablett. Do you think consolidating Tomkins was top of the agenda at the time?

Including his own brother who was more concerned with a bit of biff.

Nobody got chance to be concerned for Tomkins "who was running towards the biff 5 seconds after McGuire left him" (watch the video) because Joel started the fight.

So regarding the 2 incidents, McGuire had completely fecked his knee and was down and out in obvious pain whilst Tomkins who nobody ever (despite what you say) stood over him was running towards the fight 5 seconds later, any other great examples?

I'm watching it back now, the ref blows the whistle and McGuire goes into the "illegal tackle". He's clearly heard the whistle as he looks back whilst still on top of Sam. Sam could be seriously injured for all he knows but McGuire gets straight up and goes into the fight! I'm sorry but McGuire and all of his Leeds players need to look at themselves before all the comments they've made this week. Just because Sam gets up a few seconds after it makes no difference. I'm not trying to put all the blame on McGuire in all this at all, but after all the comments regarding the Wigan players this week from Peacock he needs to look at his own players first.

Your cleary stupid.