I accept there will always be inconsistencies. I actually pressed submit as I was about to put that Sam Tomkins was also there but was covered in them. Then again on the field his daft lad mentality could be questioned.

I can honestly say that I never saw that tatoo on Briscoe last week in the pool. And embarrassingley I think he was stood to me with his left arm facing.

i still maintain what I put though, and do think Peacock is an exeption, because he too wasn't the brightest tool when he was young, but has matured since, and I bet all his Tatoos were when younger.

It doesn't apply to all, I am not saying that. Just pointing out that the daftness seems to follow those with this sort of addiction.

Quote ="G1"Will you admit you can't comprehend? Never claimed to be in the know. In fact, I specifically said.... I made the relevant bit large to assist. I heard a rumour, I repeated it on a message board. If that kind of thing gets under your skin, may I suggest logging off or watching videos of kittens on youtube.'" You don't even need to defend what you said to this guy. The rumour you heard is true and we are already talking to other full backs. The statement Zak brought out was a generic smoothing over statement to please the fans. Nothing more, nothing less. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6221616 Bottom line... Quote The development , however, will further alert Wigan Warriors who are known to be keen on securing the services of the 2012 Super League Young Player of the Year if he becomes available.'" This deal, by the way, is as good as done. Leeds and Wigan are just sorting out payment. I will gladly come back on here and eat humble pie if I am wrong but the only thing in the way of it not happening right now is an agreement on a fee. Brett Kearney had talks with Leeds over the weekend (and this is not a "rumour"icon_wink.gif but I have heard a rumour we have spoke to another fullback too. At the end of the day the Bulls need to reduce their wage bill. Kearney is a high earner for them and Leeds need a good full back for next year. Kearney fits that bill.

Quote ="G1"Will you admit you can't comprehend? Never claimed to be in the know. In fact, I specifically said.... I made the relevant bit large to assist. I heard a rumour, I repeated it on a message board. If that kind of thing gets under your skin, may I suggest logging off or watching videos of kittens on youtube.'" You don't even need to defend what you said to this guy. The rumour you heard is true and we are already talking to other full backs. The statement Zak brought out was a generic smoothing over statement to please the fans. Nothing more, nothing less. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6221616 Bottom line... Quote The development , however, will further alert Wigan Warriors who are known to be keen on securing the services of the 2012 Super League Young Player of the Year if he becomes available.'" This deal, by the way, is as good as done. Leeds and Wigan are just sorting out payment. I will gladly come back on here and eat humble pie if I am wrong but the only thing in the way of it not happening right now is an agreement on a fee. Brett Kearney had talks with Leeds over the weekend (and this is not a "rumour"icon_wink.gif but I have heard a rumour we have spoke to another fullback too. At the end of the day the Bulls need to reduce their wage bill. Kearney is a high earner for them and Leeds need a good full back for next year. Kearney fits that bill.

This was taken at Peacock's last game with Bradford: (sorry if anyone finds this image offensive)



which suggests the bulk of the work he's had done on the visible sections of his arms was carried out post his arrival at Headingley - as a 28 year-old.



Anyone re-call how last season (IIRC) Brian McDermott was highlighting how a lot of young players were too easily distracted in his opinion while highlighting Zak Hardaker as an example for other young players to follow?

I hope you enjoy the humble pie Harrigan

idiot

If it doesnt happen I will, but I am very confident that I am right.

Anyway, if I am wrong I'll be out of the country anyway! I move to Brisbane in 3 weeks

You will be wrong. But if it means anything, I wouldn't pick you up on it anyway. Good luck with Aus mate.

I come some way short of being covered in them. But I do have a few on my arms and back. I don't think I'm a big daft lad. I'm certainly not that big. They're quite popular with a lot of people these days, not just rugby players. I know quote a few people with tattoos who are perfectly intelligent, decent human beings. I know a few people with no tattoos who are not. I also know decent, intelligent people with no tattoos, and fecking morons with tattoos. Not sure there's much correlation really.

Of course I respect your views, but they are at odds with my onw experience.

If anybody could tell me what HArdaker has actually done, and what Bailey and Delaney have actually done I'd find that easier to answer. Am I the only person not "in the know" here?

Sorry but the point about tattoos is complete tosh just because a player has tattoos doesn't make him an idiot this just seems extremely sereotypical and FYI peacocks tattoos were all done later in life whilst he's been at leeds as I know the tattooist where he had them done I also think I've seen an article sometime in the YEP

It doesn't matter about being "in the know". The post was in response to looking up to players like Sinfield, etc, which was a valid point. I like bringing up my story about Sinfield when he was younger, and I got the March brothers to sign up for Wakefield, and they had nothing but bad to say about Sinfield because he didn't drink and go out on the p1ss. Sinfield is how it should be.

But in repsonse to the other poster there is also the likes of Bailey and Delaney, who are complete and utter pish heads. Appears to be overlooked, but yet perhaps Hardaker is socialising and looking up to the wrong players.

Did Lenegan walk out when the price wasn't to his liking?

Its not the drinking thats the issue its the (bad) timeing.

Quote ="Harrigan"icon_lol.gif You don't even need to defend what you said to this guy. The rumour you heard is true and we are already talking to other full backs. The statement Zak brought out was a generic smoothing over statement to please the fans. Nothing more, nothing less. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6221616 Bottom line... This deal, by the way, is as good as done. Leeds and Wigan are just sorting out payment. I will gladly come back on here and eat humble pie if I am wrong but the only thing in the way of it not happening right now is an agreement on a fee. Brett Kearney had talks with Leeds over the weekend (and this is not a "rumour"icon_wink.gif but I have heard a rumour we have spoke to another fullback too. At the end of the day the Bulls need to reduce their wage bill. Kearney is a high earner for them and Leeds need a good full back for next year. Kearney fits that bill.'" Wouldn’t the fee be a relatively important issue though? I can’t see how it can be both ‘as good as done’ but they still need to negotiate a fee?

Quote ="Harrigan"icon_lol.gif You don't even need to defend what you said to this guy. The rumour you heard is true and we are already talking to other full backs. The statement Zak brought out was a generic smoothing over statement to please the fans. Nothing more, nothing less. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6221616 Bottom line... This deal, by the way, is as good as done. Leeds and Wigan are just sorting out payment. I will gladly come back on here and eat humble pie if I am wrong but the only thing in the way of it not happening right now is an agreement on a fee. Brett Kearney had talks with Leeds over the weekend (and this is not a "rumour"icon_wink.gif but I have heard a rumour we have spoke to another fullback too. At the end of the day the Bulls need to reduce their wage bill. Kearney is a high earner for them and Leeds need a good full back for next year. Kearney fits that bill.'" Wouldn’t the fee be a relatively important issue though? I can’t see how it can be both ‘as good as done’ but they still need to negotiate a fee?

I'd rather keep Hardaker, but if he must leave, can we have Matt Bowen instead?

Quote ="Harrigan"icon_lol.gif You don't even need to defend what you said to this guy. The rumour you heard is true and we are already talking to other full backs. The statement Zak brought out was a generic smoothing over statement to please the fans. Nothing more, nothing less. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6221616 Bottom line... This deal, by the way, is as good as done. Leeds and Wigan are just sorting out payment. I will gladly come back on here and eat humble pie if I am wrong but the only thing in the way of it not happening right now is an agreement on a fee. Brett Kearney had talks with Leeds over the weekend (and this is not a "rumour"icon_wink.gif but I have heard a rumour we have spoke to another fullback too. At the end of the day the Bulls need to reduce their wage bill. Kearney is a high earner for them and Leeds need a good full back for next year. Kearney fits that bill.'" Agreed - This is what I have been hearing and reading, Bradford board even suggests that Kearney is done deal as well...BUT I am open for any other transfers or deals until the season starts and we see the 25 man squad for Leeds

Quote ="Harrigan"icon_lol.gif You don't even need to defend what you said to this guy. The rumour you heard is true and we are already talking to other full backs. The statement Zak brought out was a generic smoothing over statement to please the fans. Nothing more, nothing less. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6221616 Bottom line... This deal, by the way, is as good as done. Leeds and Wigan are just sorting out payment. I will gladly come back on here and eat humble pie if I am wrong but the only thing in the way of it not happening right now is an agreement on a fee. Brett Kearney had talks with Leeds over the weekend (and this is not a "rumour"icon_wink.gif but I have heard a rumour we have spoke to another fullback too. At the end of the day the Bulls need to reduce their wage bill. Kearney is a high earner for them and Leeds need a good full back for next year. Kearney fits that bill.'" Agreed - This is what I have been hearing and reading, Bradford board even suggests that Kearney is done deal as well...BUT I am open for any other transfers or deals until the season starts and we see the 25 man squad for Leeds

If this is the case, it had better have been something pretty bad that he's done. He's going (assuming he applies himself) to be a terrific RL player. Kearney is good, but nowhere near Hardaker now, let alone where Hardaker will be in 2-3 years.

It would be a massive blow. It's been a while since we've let a real superstar go to a rival club.

Its not just the discipline issue, some have mentioned that Zak wants more money as well so that may be the push factor if he is not happy with his contract at Leeds, GH is the last person to crumble under a wage demand and I think B Mac is the last coach to put up with an unhappy player that may disrupt others

'Big thankyou from the fans and not just Leeds.... Been great to get that msgs.... Time to crack on now and looking forwad to 2014 #LR14'

'Forwad to a few days of rest and the back on for Leeds....!' (sic)

Now I don't know what's going on, but it appears he doesn't seem aware that he will be playing for another club next year?

IF this is all true, is Kearney a significant step forward from BJB? Or is the BJB to Wire deal apparently done too?

IF this is true and Wigan were to pay a fee, I'd rather use it to get some of the oft-alluded to (and I will use bloodbath's term here becasue I like it) wrecking ball forwards in.

Harrigan-If your source is Gledhill then i'd say the "deal as good as done" may not quite be what you've been told.
Also Kearney isnt good enough ,too old and certainly no better than Bjb as a FB imo.
IF the Club sell ZH i'd say they'll need a better calibre of signing than BK to offset the loss of a top quality player who if he lives up to his potential could be a top class FB for years to come.

Zak has been a bit of a prat, but has been taught a lesson and is a smart enough kid to know when to stop messing about. Noises over here (Ponte) are that he's committed to Leeds and doesn't want to leave, but is talking about a new contract as others have already said.

Does your theory just apply to RL players?
David Beckham hardly a daft lad.

Leeds would be absolute idiots to strengthen a rival by selling Hardaker to Wigan. It's not as if there wouldn't be a market for him in NRL or RU. Hetherington does sometimes come across as stubborn, but rarely as stupid.

Also, for all the modern idea that "contracts don't mean anything", they actually *do* mean something. And Hardaker has a five year contract on, apparently, not massive wages. I'd love him to sign a new upgraded contract to commit to Leeds because as a player he could be a superstar, but at the moment it wouldn't be the biggest hardship to actually hold him to his contract and not play him, while making sure he doesn't play for anyone else. If he wants to move to Wigan, if Wigan want to buy him, tough. Perhaps he'll see sense that he'll be ruining a short career.

However if Harrigan's rumour has come from Gledhill then you can disregard all the above because Hardaker will be signing a new contract and winning Man of Steel with the Rhinos next year.