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| Quote ="Gaslight"The quote I highlighted was saying the hit was disgraceful and he was intentionally trying to harm Burgess, which is totally wrong, and you agree with.'"
NO I DONT
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There was NOTHING wrong with what he did after either'"
YES THERE IS IMHO
Quote ="Gaslight" Ryan Bailey does it every time too,'"
NO HE DOESNT
Quote ="Gaslight" you applaud Bailey every time he does the same thing.'"
NO I DONT ![CRAZY d040.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//d040.gif)
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| whats done is done and the main thing is that luke burgess recovers from a very serious injury.
one question id like to ask is if a england player puts in a hit on lets say paul gallen or billy slater in the tri nations which resulted in the player been ko`d would you still think it to be out of order ?
also the fact that it was the 78th minute and cas were beaten bares no relevence whats so ever,a game lasts for 80 minutes walker is a young man who has a career ahead of him and he will have wanted to make an impression and im sure he did,its not the first time walker has put in such hits he laid out james stosic in a pre season friendly last year and also did the same to george burgess in the academy semi final last year,adrian morley has made a career out of tackles with the shoulder charge and personally i dont see a problem with it has its within the rules of the game.
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| Quote ="braytontiger"whats done is done and the main thing is that luke burgess recovers from a very serious injury.
one question id like to ask is if a england player puts in a hit on lets say paul gallen or billy slater in the tri nations which resulted in the player been ko`d would you still think it to be out of order ?
also the fact that it was the 78th minute and cas were beaten bares no relevence whats so ever,a game lasts for 80 minutes walker is a young man who has a career ahead of him and he will have wanted to make an impression and im sure he did,its not the first time walker has put in such hits he laid out james stosic in a pre season friendly last year and also did the same to george burgess in the academy semi final last year,adrian morley has made a career out of tackles with the shoulder charge and personally i dont see a problem with it has its within the rules of the game.'"
I am only going to repeat this one more time coz I am begining to think either our friends done t` lane are having a wind up or they are thick.
to answer your questions in order
If the player was KO`d has you put it or injured NO I WOULDNT
I have repeatedly stated nothing wrong with the hit or the accidental contact by Graham at all as you state this is all within the rules of the game.
Jumping about and celebrating when a fellow pro is badly injured isnt OK in my book what ever side they are on
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| You're still twisting the incidents DoubleAlone. JW didn't jump and celebrate LB being unconscious and suffering a broken jaw. He jumped and celebrated the big hit, that is all. You are quite clearly taking something, twisting it on it's and then complaining over it like someone who is a bit daft and just wants to have a go at some other fans. You keep spouting on about your opinion, but base those opinions on facts and those facts from the sequence of events that actually happened not the ones you are making up to suit a pathetic argument.
Remember, our game is a massive high impact high speed contact sport. Players go out and bash each other every weekend and for that 80 minutes they are enemies. Those guys still have the respect though to finish the game, shake hands and have a beer with each other, even if the game explodes into a mass brawl or one of them brakes a jaw in a collision. This is what separates our game (among a few other great things) from football, a sport full of namby pamby, whinging cry babies. Which type of fan are you?
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| The thing is it wasn't the "big hit" that floored Burgess, it was the clash of heads. Not sure why the Cas player felt the need to celebrate this, fair enough if he'd sat him on his through a good shoulder charge rather than accidental contact. Without the clash of heads it looked like they would have just bounced off each other, you wouldn't celebrate that as a forward.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"chanting of the player who caused the injuries names then some times booing the injured player off the pitch.'" Have you got any examples of this?
I have to concur that I haven't been to Headingley as much as I used to in recent years, but I am still at a loss to recall a time where an injured player has left the pitch to an echo of boos.
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| Quote ="marshman"You're still twisting the incidents DoubleAlone. JW didn't jump and celebrate LB being unconscious and suffering a broken jaw. He jumped and celebrated the big hit, that is all. You are quite clearly taking something, twisting it on it's booty and then complaining over it like someone who is a bit daft and just wants to have a go at some other fans. You keep spouting on about your opinion, but base those opinions on facts and those facts from the sequence of events that actually happened not the ones you are making up to suit a pathetic argument.
Remember, our game is a massive high impact high speed contact sport. Players go out and bash each other every weekend and for that 80 minutes they are enemies. Those guys still have the respect though to finish the game, shake hands and have a beer with each other, even if the game explodes into a mass brawl or one of them brakes a jaw in a collision. This is what separates our game (among a few other great things) from football, a sport full of namby pamby, whinging cry babies. Which type of fan are you?'"
I will tell you what I am....I am not a patronising prat who is either to stupid to read or must therefore be completely illiterate.
Our game is the best in the world IMHO played by some of the best athletes in the world at the SL level who mostly have well earned respect of their fellow pros.
I dot need you to tell me what the game is or isnt thank you very much.
NO one as complainerd about the injury to JP it was a complete accident has was the one suffered by Burgess.
I will tell you this though the Cas players and in particular JW are pathetic if they put as much effort into their HITS and CELEBRATIONS in the first 2 minutes instead of the last 2 minutes they might have earned some little respect. ![CRAZY d040.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//d040.gif)
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"I will tell you this though the Cas players and in particular JW are pathetic if they put as much effort into their HITS and CELEBRATIONS in the first 2 minutes instead of the last 2 minutes they might have earned some little respect.
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Oh! so that's what it's about ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) you don't like the fact they didn't lay down for you and put some effort in for 80 minutes, a young lad just starting his career makes an impression, you call him a disgrace, the only disgrace here is you - if you don't like the fact he was trying with 2 minutes left in the game, don't watch the sport then if it offends you so much
And you keep referring to the celebration - you watch every time there's a big hit or a forced knock on there's ALWAYS a celebration, EVERY team does it whether it's the first or last minute, give over with your agenda, you just look stupid.
Great hit that went slightly wrong, it deserved the celebration, and he rightly stopped when he saw the injury - nothing wrong at all, stop taking offence to something that you've blown out of proportion ![SUBMISSION c020.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//c020.gif)
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| Quote ="ryano"The fact it was Chev made all the difference. Pryce and Eastmond weren't afforded such generous applause when they suffered injuries at Headingley. Some double-standards on display here IMHO. It's unfortunate for Luke but I don't think the kid has anything to beat himself up about. (Well maybe the dodgy 'Barnet').'"
thing is they limped off,and i for one didn't notice they were off as the game never stopped. players stretchered off always get a round of applause at leeds as they do every club.
fwiw i don't think there was anything wrong by the cas lad, just an accidental clash of heads
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Oh! so that's what it's about
you don't like the fact they didn't lay down for you and put some effort in for 80 minutes, a young lad just starting his career makes an impression, you call him a disgrace, the only disgrace here is you - if you don't like the fact he was trying with 2 minutes left in the game, don't watch the sport then if it offends you so much
And you keep referring to the celebration - you watch every time there's a big hit or a forced knock on there's ALWAYS a celebration, EVERY team does it whether it's the first or last minute, give over with your agenda, you just look stupid.
Great hit that went slightly wrong, it deserved the celebration, and he rightly stopped when he saw the injury - nothing wrong at all, stop taking offence to something that you've blown out of proportion
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OMG if you think that was putting some effort in for 80 minutes
Your right they didnt lie down at least not for the last 5 minutes ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) apart form that they were patsies couldnt pass catch or run.
I keep saying the hit was OK apart from it would have been better before their humiliating defeat rather than completely wasted in the last 2 minutes
Are you tellimg me he was totally unaware that there had been a head collision then he is totally thick headed then.
Not blown anything out of proportion ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif) just expressed an opinion that those particular celebrations were OTT and uncalled for.
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| Every big hit I've seen in the last 10 years that resulted in lost possession has always been greeted with back slapping and celebration, it's par for the course.
It's only when there is an obvious injury people stop, just like what actually happened.
When did this become a nancy game ? or at least when did the fans ?
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Oh! so that's what it's about
you don't like the fact they didn't lay down for you and put some effort in for 80 minutes, a young lad just starting his career makes an impression, you call him a disgrace, the only disgrace here is you - if you don't like the fact he was trying with 2 minutes left in the game, don't watch the sport then if it offends you so much
And you keep referring to the celebration - you watch every time there's a big hit or a forced knock on there's ALWAYS a celebration, EVERY team does it whether it's the first or last minute, give over with your agenda, you just look stupid.
Great hit that went slightly wrong, it deserved the celebration, and he rightly stopped when he saw the injury - nothing wrong at all, stop taking offence to something that you've blown out of proportion
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I've just been on the Wakey Board and guese who's the biggest numpty on there?
Take a bow wit! You appear to make a career out of spouting crap and appear to be attempting to broaden your audience. You and that other braindead muppet Marshman, have been told on several occassions now that we accept that Walker was trying to put in a big hit....all perfectly Legal.... What he did do was a completely miss timed attempt...... that bordered on the reckless,...... and it was the clash of heads that caused the damage.
You still with us? THE CLASH OF HEADS!
We didn't like his celebrations afterwards, nor the chants from your gormless supporters, and to be honest I'm fed up with your whinging attempts at justifiying Friday night.
So do us all a favour, and depart soonest back to F'ktard land
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| Didnt JW appolgise though after he realised Burgess was injured?
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| Quote ="Riihilahti"Didnt JW appolgise though after he realised Burgess was injured?'"
If he did fair play. I dont have a problem with OTHER players running in and congratulating good play or big hits whatever thats par for the course and adds to the game
if its a good contest. but not 2 minutes from time from a heavy defeat just smacks of bitterness in my book.
I guess I have 2 main issues.
JW personal celebrations jumping about as if he had added anything to the game 2 minutes from time and over 30 points down is just pathetic
and secondly he must have known he had clashed heads and IMO he must have been aware almost instantly that Burgess was injured.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"I guess I have 2 main issues.
JW personal celebrations jumping about as if he had added anything to the game 2 minutes from time and over 30 points down is just pathetic
and secondly he must have known he had clashed heads and IMO he must have been aware almost instantly that Burgess was injured.'"
What do you expect from a Forrest Gump. "Tackle Forrest, tackle".
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| Heres another one
remember when Volcano caught Burrow and he help him out when he was out cold? The whole of the South Stand sung his name as respect for helping Robbie
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| X-Ray of Biffa's Jaw;
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| I saw that earlier it really made me cringe
Hes also got one on twitter with his face swollen like Kanye Wests the poor lad
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| jaw now held together with 3 titanium plates and 12 screws
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| I think that there has been a massive over-reaction on here to a currently legal shoulder charge/bodycheck or whatever you want to call it.
I've no doubt that Walker did not intend to break Burgess' jaw but he surely meant to inflict pain just as our players do in reverse.
I am glad though that the boot wasn't on the other foot (as it were) & that it wasn't Walker on the receiving end of a similar challenge from Ryan Bailey.
Just imagine the uproar had that happened.
Get well soon Luke, come back stronger next year.
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"I saw that earlier it really made me cringe
Hes also got one on twitter with his face swollen like Kanye Wests the poor lad'"
Whats worse is the fact that the hospital fed him a yoghurt that was a year out of date!
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| i think the reaction was purely based on the hit, i honestly dont think JW had realised just how badly Burgess was hurt, the celebration didnt actuall continue for very long, yeah it was nasty, and a clash of heads, but i doubt JW had realised that at first. There was no intention to injure Luke, it was just an unlucky conclusison to JW sprinitng 50m flat out to Burgess just hitting the ball. However, i do wish BUrgess a speedy recovery
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| Quote ="Sam Buca"Whats worse is the fact that the hospital fed him a yoghurt that was a year out of date!'"
![Shocked icon_eek.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_eek.gif) Didnt even notice that, typical NHS ! ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| My only issue with shoulder charges is when they make contact with the head. Then for me its an illegal hit, same as a swinging arm. SBW's on Bai in the World Club Challenge a few years back being a prime example. If they hit the shoulder/upper body I've no problem with them.
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