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| We've had nothing off the officials in this game.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"We've had nothing off the officials in this game.'"
Usually happens when you are second best
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| We look so much better with Aiton at DH, FFS he needs to be on for the full 80.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"We look so much better with Aiton at DH, FFS he needs to be on for the full 80.'"
The minute we took Aiton off early and brought Burrow on we lost this game. We got the ascendancy back, then Burrow back on, and backwards we go again.
The halfs have been horrendous. The officials poor.
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| We've just seen why Delaney never passes the ball.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"We look so much better with Aiton at DH, FFS he needs to be on for the full 80.'"
Agreed not sure what any of the three half backs have brought to the gane
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| What's concerned me is that yet again in a game away from home, we can't seem to produce anything what so ever in the first 40.
Barring the opening try at hull kr, we've been a non starter.
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| kylie did well this week. managed at least 10 minutes
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| Poor tonight.have to address the elephant in the room Sinfield, has been poor for nearly a year now.I love the guy,his legend is sealed but how long can you live off past reputation? Cant keep laying it at the door of mcguire
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Tad you cant say that about Peacock'"
pale shadow of his former self. we all said on here we needed forwards. to say he was a quality prop our esteemed coach hasn't a clue with regards to them
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Poor tonight.have to address the elephant in the room Sinfield, has been poor for nearly a year now.I love the guy,his legend is sealed but how long can you live off past reputation? Cant keep laying it at the door of mcguire'"
Sinfield was poor and has been for a while, but McGuire was horrendous, so not so sure on your last sentence.
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| both have been awful for most of the season but be fair, playing behind a beaten pack with no go forward can't help
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| We had a good ten minute period, but Warrington had the other 70 minutes.
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| Both halves were poor tonight and whilst we need Aiton at hooker rather than Burrow, the only decent kicks came from Burrow.
But the real issue is that we need to run straight. When we do we do alright. When we play entirely sideways it doesn't work. We need to play sideways AFTER playing straight.
I also think we got nothing from the ref. Quite a few dodgy calls which didn't help us.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Sinfield was poor and has been for a while, but McGuire was horrendous, so not so sure on your last sentence.'"
Mcguire was poor.however a lot of the time lately when he has been poor so too has Sinfield but because he is such a great figure head of the club it gets passed over.maybe its time for him to share the flak with Danny?
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| Going against the grain here, but I don't think that was a terrible loss. Away from home in the mud against one of the best sides in the division and with a shoddy refereeing performance (Wire deserved the win, but if Bentham had given Ratchford no-try and Singleton try then the video refs would have gone with that too and it would have been 12-12)
Concerns over the half-back but Wire were fast onto them in defence. Didn't help at all that Moon went off either.
Props: Peacock is not the dominant prop he was but he didn't have a bad game. Going to have to accept that he's a different player and Cuthbertson is our number one prop now, but that doesn't mean JP has nothing to give. Singleton went really well too...victim of two bad Bentham decisions as well. Kylie, not so much.
Golding went fine for debut. Didn't look out of place at all. Not as good as Hardaker though.
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| Like to see Sutcliffe and Maguire given a run in the halves now. They were fantastic against Wakey in Boxing Day, really gelled.
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| Another point that needs making and i hope the leeds backroom team have made this note, Cuthbertson,great offloader and just what we need but you ainy wally lewis and sometimes its best just to die with the ball theres a good lad
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| It's one game, against a good side, at theirs, not the end of the world. Of more concern to me is that we looked second best in most areas. All the worries about our ageing players were brought into sharp focus tonight. It wasn't a comprehensively poor performance, but it was one to raise the concern that we might struggle against teams who are strong in the forwards.
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| To be honest I'm not too disappointed. We defended well for the most part and it was stupid penalties and errors which gifted them their points.
Worryingly Sinfield looks lost in the halves and and our last tackle plays and organisation continue to be a shambles. Burrow (who was poor in general) was the only pivot whom seemed capable of executing anything approaching a decent kick.
As mentioned above, Aiton has to play for the full 80, we look so much more threatening with him on and he brings the forwards on to the ball in a way Burrow simply doesn't. I thought he was our best player tonight, and out shone the much loved Clark quite comfortably.
Going into next week BM has some decisions to make. I know there's almost no chance Sinfield won't play but his form must be a concern, and Sutcliffe and McGuire looked very good in the the pre season games they played.
Will Ablett play at centre against Wigan, or will BM give Handley a game and push Briscoe to centre?
I also hope Achurch is fit again next week as I thought we missed his impact off the bench.
Overall we weren't good enough but we were OK in our defense, and Warrington weren't that much better than us on the night, a couple of 50/50s go the other way and it would've probably been a draw, but perhaps that would've been more than we deserved.
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| Thought we moved the ball quite well early on but lost our way and Warrington were deserved winners. We are not far off and i don't share the doom and gloom that gets posted on here.
2 wins from our next 3 would put us in a decent position with a 3rd of the season gone.
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Will Ablett play at centre against Wigan, or will BM give Handley a game and push Briscoe to centre?
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Isn't it 5 days break for concussion? If that's what Moon had?
Quote ="craigizzard"Going against the grain here, but I don't think that was a terrible loss. Away from home in the mud against one of the best sides in the division and with a shoddy refereeing performance (Wire deserved the win, but if Bentham had given Ratchford no-try and Singleton try then the video refs would have gone with that too and it would have been 12-12)
Concerns over the half-back but Wire were fast onto them in defence. Didn't help at all that Moon went off either.
Props: Peacock is not the dominant prop he was but he didn't have a bad game. Going to have to accept that he's a different player and Cuthbertson is our number one prop now, but that doesn't mean JP has nothing to give. Singleton went really well too...victim of two bad Bentham decisions as well. Kylie, not so much.
Golding went fine for debut. Didn't look out of place at all. Not as good as Hardaker though.'"
Yep, a couple of 50/50s reversed and the score could've been very, very different.
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| Singleton looks great for you guys.... he had another good game... every other one of your forwards was found wanting in the physical battle tonight though.
No doubting your back line is brilliant.. but when your pack is beat up like it was tonight, not alot they can do.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Sinfield was poor and has been for a while, but McGuire was horrendous, so not so sure on your last sentence.'"
You know exactly what the last sentence was about - even you have admitted you have overlooked Sinfield's shortcomings in the past
Mcguire was ineffective didn't see him giving a try away right in front of his posts but as you say you see Sinfield's performances through rose tinted glasses
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Singleton looks great for you guys.... he had another good game... every other one of your forwards was found wanting in the physical battle tonight though.
No doubting your back line is brilliant.. but when your pack is beat up like it was tonight, not alot they can do.'"
The forwards looked alright when Aiton was on at DH and our defense was a lot more physical.
Warrington weren't great which is the most disappointing aspect of it for me. Westwood and Philbin, were outstanding, and Russell worked hard, but the rest were no more than solid.
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