Can anybody really blame him?

Any proven player worth their salt would be happier away from Leeds at the moment. The club is in dissaray.

Top players here at the moment, must realize that 2012 will most probably a deja vue of this season as it stands. And we can only hope that there is enough going on behind the scenes to try and make 2013 a springboard for going forward again.

I hope Danny gets his move, and GH shows us once again that the Rhinos brand is not simply a cash cow.

[i"And it has been tough here. I was probably bought by a club that didn't need me. They had an established hooker, a great player, and I had to fight my way in."[/i

At least he's honest about the situation. Good on him.

Indeed Exter. Not only that, he recognises what his fekkwitt Rhino acolytes refuse to accept.

I say let the guy go. Good guy, good player but has failed to provide the influence on this team one would expect from such a player.

Us the quota and cap space created on other more pressing needs.

Time to have a good long look at Liam Hood for the rest of this year if the coach has any nous.

If he wants to go let him. I've been a fan, and no doubt he would continue to give his all (he's clearly been on the horns of this dilemma for a while without it materially affecting his level of performance), but if he's going then we need to balance our performance level this year, with our need to explore the options for next year.

I'd agree with most of that. Leeds should let him go - not because he isn't up to it I hasten to add, but more because I think Leeds need to start again from scratch next year (with McShane and Hood already in place in this position). I'd also like to see Buderus back at the Knights (my preferred NRL team) & finish his career on a high with them.

On the 'influence' side, I think he has provided sufficient influence for a player who only plays in 40 minute stints. Had Leeds signed the 80 minute version, I suspect his contribution would be more widely recognised. You are definitely right that Leeds didn't need him though.

One thing we can be sure of is Buderus will honour his contract at Leeds, should the club insist upon that. He's not the type of person who would sign a one year contract extension and then renege on it once he'd cashed in on something... like a testimonial for instance.

Got to disagree with those that are saying he has not done anything for the team and we didn`t need him.
He is sheer class playing in a poor Leeds pack be it down to how they are coached or how they are performing with some past their sell by date and others not up to it.
Those who are moaning on about how we did not need him are probably the same fans who were slagging off Diskin and McShane as not being good enough last season and the season before.
I agree maybe McShane and Hood are our future but to say we did not need Buderus is a joke.
We need him plus at least 2 more players in that pack oh and add a centre and a half back to that request please.

Even Buderus admits we didn't need him. We needed a quality centre, which is even more apparent now.

We may not have needed him at the time, that is possible. But the last two seasons would have been a hell of a lot worse without him. He has been a shining light in a fastly diminishing squad.

Noooooooooo. Surely not? Not the living legend that was Diskin!

I know, Leeds never did anything without Buderus did they.

I mean, his influence was never more greatly emphasized than when Leeds had to cope without him from July 2009 till the end fo that season.

Was 2009 the last two seasons?

I would like to see how liam goes in a few games as he is my mates lad, not sure him and mcshane are the answer full time on current form to be honest

Agree with this also. I said we didn't need him, but that doesn't mean he wasn't a good signing.

Well, this one hasn't finished so, yes. the last two full season's were 2010 and 2009.

Alternatively, from July 2009 to July 2011 is two full seasons.

More fogknitting I see from you.

Where did I say full seasons?

Last two seasons are 2010 and 2011. No fogknitting can put a different slant on that.

Meh what does Buderus know?
Seriously I don`t think he is the sort of person to big him self up by saying we needed him and we were right to get rid of Diskin who in my opinion was not delivering like he should have been.
And yes Diskin does have the GF rings but so do one or two others in the Leeds team who again in my opinion offer little these days.

Further lack of clarity on your part. No wonder why everyone takes such an issue with your posts.

"Last" two seasons eh?

2011 is this season, not last. last two seasons were 2010 and 2009.

Rubber-Johnny Wainhouse will be in the playing roster next season to off-set the departures of Diskin and Buderus.

Fantastic player though he is I DID think hooker was the least of our problems with McShane and Hood as back up.

However McShane looks to have gone backwards recently ...and without the recent efforts of Buderus our present pack would look even more pathetic than it already does. Even I, as a vociferous campaigner of bringing in the kids, would hesitate to field Hood with the lack of grunt up front.

Buderus at the moment would be a HUGE loss. He leads the defence and is criminally under appreciated by some on here.

It's not his fault he was brought to the club, nor is it his fault he has persistently being under utilised as a full 80 min hooker that he undoubtedly is. I 've grown tired of seeing him taken off when competing and then brought back on when losing badly largely DIRECTLY due to his removal from the field.

Still would let him return to Newcastle.... it's the least the club could do for having him play under such an inept coaching set up.

I think it's clear he wants to return home and although there's no doubt he'd put 100% in if he stayed i don't see the point of keeping someone who clearly wants to leave.
Lets thank him and move on ,it's time for Mcshane and Hood to be handed their chances to become the ft 9.
We all know what we achieved with Diskin and even Buderus has admitted his move wasn't handled that well in hindsight especially the no9 shirt farce but i will also add Disko peaked playing ina team at their peak whereas Buderus just past his best has mainly(when not injured) played in a team that needed freshening up.
I'm happy we showed ambition to get him but there was unrest caused and our luck ran out injury wise.
Looking at Disko playing for the bulls i'd take Buderus this year so that looks like the right call re-Diskos departure was made.
Time to move on although to release Buderus which i'm in favour of whilst we've awarded Kirke a new 2yr deal shows that serious issues need sorting re-recruitment/retention imo.

Although most of what you post is complete b0llocks, I have noticed in recent TV games, that we have a 10-15 minute patch in which we concede 2 or 3 tries which effectively lose the game. Against Wigan and Catalans this defineitely coincided with Buderus being off the pitch.

I do believe that he is not an 80 minute player (or more like its not getting the best out of him to be an 80 min player), but we definitely drop off when he's taking a breather

Like Tony Martin you mean

He was a dumb signing. Buderus has said that himself. He obviously got sold a bit of a dud when he signed re the role he'd play with Diskin - I bet he would never have joined us if he'd known the situation.

Anyway, I'd be happy to let McShane and Hood have a go from next year. I have no doubts Buderus would continue to try his all for Leeds, as he is a champion player. But if he wants to return to Newcastle for a triumphant swansong, we shouldn't stand in his way. Unless we sign some players in key positions, next year will be all about rebuilding, and at most he'll only be here for the one season. We may be weak at hooker without him, but we are currently far weaker in other positions.