Surely the build up to this game has been tailor-made for TMFMISL

yeah right ! Smith ...big ???

Funniest suggestion yet this year.....apart from Smith at SO of course.. ( oops.... that was me ).

Think we should get Ablett to kick goals as well just for the laugh....he could practice on Sam plonker Tomkins' head. ..Just follow brother Joel's kicking style of course.

And I thought my joke was good...Smith at 6



In all seriousness Sinfield is nailed on to play 6. Its a tosh up between Ablett and Clarkson for 13.

You are kidding right? It's the complete oppossite. Bailey is targeted by refs as it is, if people don't think that Silverwood will be going into that game with an agenda to watch the slightest indiscretion then they are kidding themselves. Bailey would be a walking liability for us.

Are you confusing "professional Super League ref" with "RLFans morons"?

Bailey is not the most penalised man in our squad, let alone Super League

Abso - bludd y - lutely. He is too astute to be caught by any ageing ref who will, besides, be too busy looking out for Senior.


Webb
Hall
Ablett
Senior / Delaney
Donald
Sinfield
Burrow
Bailey
Buderus
Lleulai
JJB
Delaney / Senior
Clarkson

Smith
Lautiti
Eastwood
Amber

No arguments there surely ?

And I never said he was either. Perhaps you are slightly confused looking for something that is not there.

I said Bailey is targetted, that is different to been constantly penalised. The slightest indiscretion from Bailey ends up in a penalty, for which in many cases other players would not get penalised for.

You already highlighted yourself above how you think this match might go. So think it through why it might be a problem.

I would imagine it might go like the Hull game recently, where TMFMISL managed to get us a penalty and a man advantage which may or may not have been decisive.

I don't think the refs target him, although if you do have examples of this happening I'm happy to be proved wrong

For the sake of full disclosure, i agree Leeds looked a different team once he had left the field against the Pies last week and I would still be confident of turning them over whether he makes the squad or not

WHAT?!



1, Your willing to play Ablett out of position to swap a natural centre (and you don't even know which one) to second row?

2, Your bench is $h!7. Where is Diskin?

3, Ambler won't play.

Mm m m ....

1. Ablett is a better centre than one of your "natural" centres. The genuine natural centre did good in second row at Hull. You're right.....too indecisive. Let's have both your "natural" centres in second row. Job's a good un.

2. You're ! And so is Diskin.

3. Maybe Amber won't play....but I thought idea of this was to suggest and promote our own thoughts / ideas..... Not just second guess our glorious, testicular challenged, over emotionally charged coach..... which to be honest is rather easy and pathetic.

Tell me...you have Smithy on the bench...where would you use him?

Ablett is way too slow to play centre. Half a gap in the defensive line and he is too slow to shut it. And lets face it in the threequater line there are big gaps that have to be filled pretty darn quickly. Senior is a centre. Delaney is a centre full stop.

Hopefully Bailey will perfect his Kansas City Shuffle again.

You watch too many movies.

Regards
wtwtillidie

Very good.

Smith is versatile... Presuming you leave the lump and the defensive positioning liability in the centre positions then you can use these two as the effective extra interchange forwards...Smith to step in there.
Ablett has better cogitive abilities on attack than the present incumbent.
Neither is really good. Smith is lacking ideally too. Bit of an issue really papered over by the fact we have had McGuire all season to depend on for finishing.

Really hope Watkins can step up next season

Course he doesn't. He made a statement. You demonstrated his statement to be patently untrue so he knit some fog.

Classic Gotcha.

Indeed, so when I have said the same thing twice this season that you have gone on posting in full agreement on, it now just highlights your inconsistencies? or was it your childish agendas this time?

Classic G1.... no really.

You are incredibly boring by the way for all.

Why only the other week TVOC said he found us both entertaining.

Your comments hurt me here



and here

Would you say Ablett is quicker or slower than Matt Gidley? Gidley has been one of the best centres in the comp for many years despite a distinct lack of pace

Could you provide a link to two separate posts from you saying "Bailey is targeted by refs as it is" and me agreeing on each occasion.

TIA.

Get ready for more classic Gotcha folks.

But Gidley is quick on his feet. He doesn't have pace in a straight sprint but he is always on his toes and turns pretty quickly. Thing is with Ablett is he cannot turn and adapt quick enough to play in the three quaters on a regular basis. That is the reason why he is a back rower.

Let our specialist centres play centre for christ sake. Who in there right mind would put Ablett at centre and put Delaney and Senior in the back row in a game of this magnitude? Thank fook it aint gonna happen. Fact. As stevo used to say Ill put my mortgage on it.

I think you are being a bit naive here Gotcha.

Yes he is targeted by some refs. I can think of numerous incidents where I've thought 'there's nothing in that 'incident' it must be his rep'.

But you mention these indiscretions that end up as penalties against Bailey.

But (if I'm correct) he doesn't even average a penalty against him per game.



So what actual damage can that do?

Your argument IMO doesn't really stack up.

If anything he will also win penalties, so where does that leave calculations!!

Like I say, I'm waiting for another Kanas City Shuffle from the big man!!

If Bailey's fully fit then we need him in the team. I'm not his biggest fan by any stretch but given this game could (and probably will) get very tasty we need the big fella's out there.

Ideally of course we'd be happy to go with a mobile pack and run 'em ragged but with Silverwood in charge, Wigans style of slowing us down at every opportunity will almost certainly be allowed and the game will degenerate into a bit of a slugging match

Although in all seriousness I wouldn't disagree in having Delaney and Senior in the centre positions for this match ....I do wish you would desist in refering to Delaney as a "natural" or "specialist" centre.

It's hard to reconcile that dogma with a guy who is good at taking the ball up and who is unquestionably defensively solid (unless he's compelled to leap for a high ball of course - sure Deacon might utilise that particular achilles heel)....BUT is not pacy, who always turns back inside into trouble when released and demonstrates no compunction to get any semblance of a good pass out to his winger.



Qualities maybe to warrant a place in the 17, but certainly not to command a regular centre position.

(Roll on next season with the new centre partnership of Jones-Bishop and Watkins.

)

I've got to say I agree to some extent.

In our first game at Crusaders I thought Delaney demonstrated some real good centre play by getting on the outside of his opponent and releasing Donald. However classy touches like this have since been few and far between.

Like you say his defence and workrate are good and he is capable of running the right line in the opponents 10m. Let's remember he is still relatively young (23?). I still think he could shape up to be a very good threequarter.