I don't know why there's all this moaning from Whinos fans. You were never going to compete with the big clubs like Warrington this season.

Know your place and all that.

That's exactly why Bulls fans should switch to baiting Batley or Dewsbury.

Not this WireWonder knob again. Every time we win a game he goes round other clubs boards being stupid....he doesn't seem to come on our board though??

Not that I'm encouraging him.

Wigan fan in disguise I reckon

Deffo a wigan fan.... Just ban him and be rid of him.

Not looking for an argument here, and I know we have plenty ourselves, but do Wire normally have so many drunken young chavs follow them? I've lived in Warrington before so I know the area and the people but I was surprised to see so many mickey'd up young wire fans???

Hopefully not.

Can't avoid the 'football mongs' who follow success i'm afraid.

OT but is it just me, or is it sad how many football fans support teams based 30+ miles away from where they were born / raised / live but still use the term 'we' when referring to them?

There wasn't an outstanding player on the Leeds side - we were very poor, we looked what we are - old and slow

A major shake up in personnel required if we want to be contenders - sadly the likes of Peacock, Kylie, Senior, Kirke, Hauraki, Cross will still be be around next season

Can you please ban this idiot. He's not a Wire fan, simply a troll who winds people up.

Two points.

1 - Tonight puts our own recent debacle against Wire into maybe it's proper perspective.

2 - I fail to see what coming on here and winding up the natives is likely to achieve? Someone said we need to put our own house in order first, and I agree. I don't find gloating at others' misfortunes particularly attractive at the best of times, and to do it from where we currently languish in the table is Gledhill-esque in the extreme, I suggest?

Going off your performance tonight you lot must be glad relegation has been abolished.

You were even worse than in last seasons Challenge Cup Final. And believe me,that took some doing!!

Agree with this.

The constant chelping and indiscipline has been cited as an integral part of the culture which developed as a result of McClennan's coaching tenure. Yet nothing appears to have changed on that front with a different coaching regime now in place.

My view has always been that indiscipline is often a symptom of a team who once had it good but knows it's now in decline and the good times are increasingly appearing to be over. It's no different to the behaviour of spoilt brats who are used to getting their own way all the time and when they no longer do, they throw a strop and spit their dummies out.

Leeds have been like this since Smith and they have won 3 GF's behaving in this way. Teams that are constantly on the back foot give away a lot of penalties - Leeds have been the second best side in the majority of their games for 2 years now - McGuire got them out of crap last year.

This culture is so ingrained that until the squad changes - ie some of the senior players moving on - this will continue to be a major issue - even McDermott appears at his wits end with it.

It is sad to see a great side perform like a shadow of its former self but Warrington showed what is required to compete at the highest level and Leeds are nowhere near that standard.

Quite simply they dont get away with it at the HJ (underage drinking leads to automatically being kicked out and also "drunken" behaviour will also result in being asked to leave if considered a problem) and so make the most of it at more "lenient" grounds.

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apologies for this Pie in a Wolf's clothing

Don't worry about it, its a low grade troll and we're used to the professional ones around here, its not worth my effort clicking on the Ban button - we just point and laugh and the poor ones go away sulking.

Following on from the drunken chavs thing...

I am a Rhinos fan who lives in Warrington, and some of my mates who went to the match and were in the away end have been saying to me that there was many racist comments made at the black Leeds players. As I was in the South Stand, I didn't hear any of this but it is still unacceptable in our sport. This needs to be stopped and we don't want our sport to turn into football.

On our performance, we were absolutely shocking. In the second half, we didn't seem to want it. Why was Robbie Burrow on the bench? Anybody know?

I heard no racist comments at all and i haven't heard racism at any game i've been to.
A lot of our fans called Bailey a winker but that's it.

As I said, I didn't hear it. I'm just going off what some friends said. It is probably a major minority but I still don't like to hear about racism at rugby games or hear racism at rugby games.

All the SL clubs have stated that ANY racist chants will result in PERMANENT barring for those caught.

If you're going off hearsay you shouldn't even have mentioned it. We have a number of players of various colours and races and I haven't heard anything like that at any RL ground for years.

Please explain how TS is arrogant?

We got snotted, so I'm gonna make up a story about the other teams fans being racists.

to JPs book signing,it was a cold winter's saturday morning with snow and ice on the ground and Tony Smith was there helping out getting pics taken with young fans along side the SL trophy he was no longer coach of Leeds at that time,and he had travelled over from Huddersfield,If he is arrogent he really got my respect that day

I went to that book signing and was really impressed with TS. The only
issue I had was JP not being able to spell STE