Exactly.

Well done Leeds from a PR and management perspective.

Let's hope he has learned his lesson and he can kick on from here.

So what has he done?

The England RL set up could learn a thing or two about PR & management from the Rhinos.

So could Salford, they just have some rich bloke shooting from the hip.

Lets hope its done and dusted and he learns from it aswell as coming back in 2014 ready to kick on show what a quality player he is.

Well said rhinoms.
Without really knowing what's happened, could this, at least in part, be down to a pretty rapid rise for Hardaker? It's less than 4 years since he was playing for Featherstone Lions and he's now Leeds first choice full back and vying for the England spot? If Tomkins wasn't so bloody good he'd easily be England full back.

Only a thought.

I take it G1, Tad and Harrigan are going to admit their 'in the know' snippets were in fact a load of cr@p then? You know like if anyone else posted rumours with the whole protecting the source blah blah blah or little snippets of vague information when in fact it's a load of rubbish would get torn apart for...

oh surprise surprise.......any comment ?

Will you admit you can't comprehend? Never claimed to be in the know. In fact, I specifically said....



I made the relevant bit large to assist.

I heard a rumour, I repeated it on a message board. If that kind of thing gets under your skin, may I suggest logging off or watching videos of kittens on youtube.

wow, that was easy

Ah, the old "he's taken the bait" get-out post. Smooth move.

ah the old 'hey G1 please like me' response. Smooth move.

Just send him to Wire as a punishment

You are bit like another poster on here who tries suggest all the rumours are rubbish without actually knowing whether the are correct or not.

Do you know the circumstances around Zac's departure? if not you are not in a postion to critisise, could I suggest you either put up or shut up.

Yes. A few posts before this one.

I still don't know what actually happened. If you do, from any reliable source, please share it.

And your X-Files bit about the lies continuing because we keep swallowing them still makes me chuckle. It's one of the reasons you're my favourite.

Nice to have you back. Don't stay away so long next time. I missed you.

You are not really helping yourself here if I'm honest, until you put some substance into your high horse litte rant it's hard to reply.

I will ask again, what was the rfl "cover up" and what were the "lies" we were naively "swallowing"?

I have no knowledge of what Hardaker's done, nor am I privy to any rumours/texts/tweets/whispered comments in pubs but what does disappoint me in this whole sorry saga is that you'd hope & expect that any young aspiring players in the Rhinos set-up would look up to & learn from the exemplary conduct & professionalism of Sinfield & Peacock.
There are other role models too - Burrow, McGuire, Jones-Buchanan &, dare I say it, Ian Kirke (ok that was a bit tongue in cheek) - yet he still (apparently) chooses to behave more like Gareth Hock.
I do hope he's learned his lesson & that he doesn't follow the path of (say) Danny Ward.
I also wonder if whilst in the England camp his head has been turned by tales of the money that Charnley appears to be on & secondly if he's found out that Briscoe is on significantly more than he is with the Rhinos?
Something must have tempted him to leave Hull for the Rhinos.
Such matters can prey on a young, impressionable man's mind I'm sure.

What about Bailey and Delaney? How does the way he acts become any different to those two? and yet of course it appears to be overlooked. Perhaps they are who he looks up to?

Im guessing briscoe moved for money and trophies, good combination


The only advantage playing for hull is that you get longer summer holidays because they get punked out of the playoffs early. Betya Gaz ellis wishes he came to us now. Voted wests best player 2 years in a row then anonymous at hull.

Something else to put out there on the daft lad theory. People have their own views and I respect that, but I have mine.

I was at Thorpe Park Spa last week whilst the England boys were there, and was talking with James Graham, Sean O'Loughlin, Mossop, Sam Burgess, Tom Briscoe. What surprised me is that none of those players had tatoos at all. I just thought it was the in thing with these players, and to me no surprise that the mentality of those covered in them always seems to follow the same way.

You got me. You wrote something silly on a message board and I responded to you. Good job.

You're a winner, clearly.

Thankfully sibbs i'm quite a likeable and level-headed bloke, so I don't need to engage in such sycophantic activities. You on the other hand failed to read and comprehend before criticising, got caught out, before trying to backpedal your way out of it. Neither of which are particularly likeable qualities

Peacock seems to be covered in plenty of ink - is he the exception that proves your "rule"?

As others have mentioned Peacock is covered in 'em but it hasn't appeared to stop him being a model professional, whereas Graham from your list above perhaps isn't but that didn't stop him gnawing on Billy Slater's ear in the 2012 NRL GF ...... so I think there will always be glaring inconsistencies with this particular theory.