With a fully fit forward pack next year we should be/hopefully looking at

Garbutt Segeyaro Singleton
Ferres Ablett
Ward

Cuthbertson,Galloway,Singleton, Mullally,Oledzski,ormondroyd
Keinhorst,JJB,Delaney,Walters.

I still think we would be stronger if we replaced one or both of Delaney and JJB due to their age and injury problems and Burrow due to needing a new better HB. If we sign one then id rather see us use an 80min hooker and the bench spot for Lilley, Cameron or another forward.

I'm not sure that it will come down to the Rhino's valuation of Zak Andy

I heard that Zak had to get out of the country to clear his head and that his loan deal at Penrith was the perfect fit for all parties

But with the previso that IF Zak ultimately got a long term contract from an NRL side on the back of his outstanding performances at Penrith, and that the terms were also agreed with the Rhinos then he could leave the Rhinos for the NRL club of his choice for 2017

IMO Zak will be back at the Rhinos for 2017

Achurch leaving and a decent hooker in is all we need in my opinion. Obviously Segeyaro staying would complete the need for a hooker.
With Stevie Ward back it means we can give longer breaks to players like Ablett, Delaney and JJB who can all still play a role IMO.

Tbh i'd be surprised if an NRL had to match the 300k. Not saying any club will but if they did offer 200-225k then GH might do the deal.

With a decent halfback I reckon we could see this team fly again. Soward is the obvious choice if he's not already signed a contract for another SL club for 2017.

Another option would be Corey Norman, linked recently to Hull. Cracking player and also Segeyaro's best mate. Would demand a big wage tho, not sure if Gawy would pay up. Could be a great way of getting Segeyaro to stay on tho.

I'm not sure what the OP has been smoking but those changes are nuts, it stinks of fantasy football style management.

At this stage I don't think we NEED to get rid of anyone depending on exactly where we are with the salary cap.

Falloon, achurch and hopefully Zak will be gone for next season with only seg hopefully confirmed for next season. The rest of the cap space should be prioritised for a half back.

After that it just depends if any of the many rumours of players wanting out are true. It's hard to predict that though so at this point I would be happy with a quality hooker and hb.

We've got to be after Soward, surely?

Generally agree with you but i think we do need a quality half. Problem being, who is available? I would stress, i would only want quality not some bargain basement, lst minute Falloon type signing.

Also, maybe a decision needs to be made on JJB and Delaney too. I actually think JJB may call time end of this year and maybe one more from Delaney but both look on the brink.

I don't think the squad looks a million miles away TBH, address the obvious areas and when we don't have an injury crisis we should be competing the top end again looking at the respective quality of the other teams. SL is not of a great standard and doesn't have a stand out team right now. the gap between top and bottom is pretty slim really.

You'd assume so but GH might think we can cope with Mags and Burrow for another year.

We could cope of course. But we won't be winning anything with those two as our halves, imo anyway. I wouldn't see Burrow as anything other than emergency half nowadays anyhow, Lilley obviously needs to continue his development and will be in the mix. Like i say, if anyone of real quality at halfback presents himself, we should be in for him.

Given the way this season has gone, I can't believe no one has called the most obvious change, although it's not one of the players so perhaps that's why. A new coach with new ideas could really freshen up some players who are looking well past their sell by date.

In any walk of life, 6 years listening to the same boss is a very long time.

With regards to Burrow, how good yet frustrating was it to see him (or any of our halves) produce a couple of good high kicks to the corner for Hall to challenge for......why it only happens once in a blue moon God knows why.

Yep. Our kicking game and fifth tackle options in opposition 25 has been nothing short of woeful all year. Just shows the ability is there though, which makes it all the more frustrating.

Couldn't agree more. Does seem its decided he will get at least another year though.

Wasn't Corey Norman part of the problem, or at least the people he and Segeyaro were hanging around with?

I think eventually we could do with a second rower. As you can't imagine there's too much time left for JJB and Delaney and Ablett looks knackered this season too. Probably why we were interested in Westerman. I think we'll keep Ferres but even with him, Ward and Ablett we need another backrower with Keinhorst providing very able and useful backup. I don't know much about the prospective academy players but could maybe Cameron Smith be a loose forward option in the next year or 2?

I agree in general on the half back issue however we'd have to be talking a top quality halfback to bring in and they're pretty rare in the NRL never mind SL. As you say there's not much point causing the disruption just to bring in an average player.

I'm willing to give Mullalley more time. He's not impressed but he's been playing at a time when we've played poorly as a team. So I'd give him next season to show us what he can do and then make a decision. If he's not up to it then I think we need another prop.

So for next season the only signing I'd make would be to ensure we have a decent hooker. I don't think we need a fantastic one, we just need a good defensive one and one who can distribute the ball fairly well.

I'm not sure what the OP has been smoking but those changes are nuts, it stinks of fantasy football style management.

At this stage I don't think we NEED to get rid of anyone depending on exactly where we are with the salary cap.

Falloon, achurch and hopefully Zak will be gone for next season with only seg hopefully confirmed for next season. The rest of the cap space should be prioritised for a half back.

After that it just depends if any of the many rumours of players wanting out are true. It's hard to predict that though so at this point I would be happy with a quality hooker and hb.

Luke Briscoe - [2016 - CT **
Tom Briscoe - [2018 - FT **
Rob Burrow - [2017 - CT K **
Ashton Golding - [2018 - CT **
Ryan Hall - [2018 - CT **
Ashley Handley - [2017 - CT **
Jordan Lilley - [2016 - CT K **
Danny McGuire - [2017 - (C) CT **
Joel Moon - [2018 - NFT **
Liam Sutcliffe - [2017 - CT K **
Kallum Watkins - [2019 - CT **
Forwards - CT K **

While i agree Burrow should not be first choice he is still far away the best impact player in the league off the bench

Had completely forgotten about Walters.

While he won't clear much cap space, I genuinely can't see a reason for keeping him around. Likewise Luke Briscoe.

Zak won't get a deal on what he's dished up so far but it's early doors. In the NRL that door will be shut pretty quick though.

What he really needs is a full pre season but that's a big punt to take by any NRL club at this stage.

Friday showed us what we were missing. Nothing too special, just a Marc Sneyd type half back. Him or Kevin Brown would be enough, providing we keep Segeyaro.

The Wigan game this week will give an indication of how far adrift of the better sides this squad is.

Hull showed at Huddersfield the week before they seem to be in a lull of form whereas Wigan appear to be improving as the season progresses.

Dont talk crap hull were not a poor side or in a lull on friday ...are lads beat em up and stayed focused till the end ..are pack were on fire and didnt let hulls pack steam roll us ...give are lads some credit and dont think for one minute we only won because hull are in a lull give over and give your head a shake ..the team put in a performance credit were its due ...

Got to agree with this