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| I'd find it difficult to tell if our bin men here were on strike. It would be hard to distinguish it from one of those weeks when they just seem to decide they don't fancy it and the bins don't get collected.
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| My union at work have also been arguing about the level of cost of living increase this year. Its been over 9 months. Who's going to pay the interest on my £300?
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I'd find it difficult to tell if our bin men here were on strike. It would be hard to distinguish it from one of those weeks when they just seem to decide they don't fancy it and the bins don't get collected.'"
Had there been a little more rhyme and reason to the way the replacement crews were used I wouldn't have bothered how long it went on for.
As it was we had our bins emptied three weeks in a row, then missed two weeks, did a week and now haven't had them done for the last three.
Still, fortnightly collections will be the norm before long so having four weeks rubbish piled up because the bin crews didn't empty them last time will be the norm.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Had there been a little more rhyme and reason to the way the replacement crews were used I wouldn't have bothered how long it went on for.
As it was we had our bins emptied three weeks in a row, then missed two weeks, did a week and now haven't had them done for the last three.
Still, fortnightly collections will be the norm before long so having four weeks rubbish piled up because the bin crews didn't empty them last time will be the norm.'"
In Kirkees it is very confusing. I think this is how it works.
The first week the recycling bin will be emptied. The second week the rubbish bin. The third week the recycling bin and the glass bin. The fourth week the rubbish bin.
However we sometimes have weeks where the glss and recycling might be put out, or where the recycling and rubbish might be put out. Because our bins are collected on Mondays, some weeks are also missed due to bank holidays, and the one bin I want, a garden waste bin, we are not provided with!
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| When the temp bin men collected our general waste last week I was very impressed that he picked up bits of it that fell out when it didn't all go into the bin wagon.
I wonder if the regular crew would have done the same?
I hope that the lad involved gets a permanent job, if he wants it, in the future.
The main stumbling block to the settlement was the need to rationalise routes. Let's hope this has been done.
I find it interesting that the unions involved in this dispute are the same as those whose female (mainly) members have gained the most from the overdue implementation of the Equal Pay legislation which they also fought for.
IMO the binmen have previously over the years always used the threat of industrial action & the spectre of rubbish piling up in the streets to obtain pay deals that were not merited.
It is only now Labour is no longer in charge in Leeds that there has been the stomach for this fight.
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| Speaking of problems in Leeds, I notice that The Headrow has once again become gridlocked. Does anyone know why this has started up again?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Had there been a little more rhyme and reason to the way the replacement crews were used I wouldn't have bothered how long it went on for.
As it was we had our bins emptied three weeks in a row, then missed two weeks, did a week and now haven't had them done for the last three.
Still, fortnightly collections will be the norm before long so having four weeks rubbish piled up because the bin crews didn't empty them last time will be the norm.'"
Its been like that for ages in Nottm, well Broxtowe actually. Green Bins one week, Black the next. Does actually make you think about what you throw away, and what you recycle
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"That'll be because a strike is called by a union for its members and based on the wishes of those members. Why should those who are not members of the union and do not pay it subscriptions have the right to influence whether its members can or cannot take industrial action?
But they also expect/intimidate those non members to strike too otherwise the effectiveness of the action would be severely diminished
When I first joined the Civil Service I also joined PCS (or CPSA as it was at that time). It took me about six months to figure out that the sole aim of the local representatives were to make it onto regional or national committees so they could get more paid time off work. I decided at that point my subscriptions would be better spent elsewhere.'"
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| Quote ="Captain McAnkleTap"My missus' brother-in-law is a Leeds binman. He said the main reason they've voted in favour of the deal now is because most binmen have a clause in their contract stating that, after 12 weeks of consistent strike action, the contract can be terminated.
Not sure how true that is, or how it would actually work in practice (contravenes Employment Law surely?), but there you go.'"
Sacking them all after 12 weeks would have been perfectly legal
You have hit the nail on the head
Quote ="Employment Law"The dismissal of any striking employee during the first 12 weeks of lawfully organised official strike action will be deemed unfair. If, as an employer, you lock out your workforce during this protected period, the lock out days are ignored when calculating the 12 week period. However, you can dismiss an employee after the 12 week period if you can show you have made genuine attempts to negotiate. This must include the proper use of any joint disputes resolution procedure.'"
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"Over I see
Why the change of heart 6/7 weeks ago 90+% vote against the deal - now 75% vote for the same deal?
So the workers have lost two months pay for nothing - unions!!! no skin of their nose those their still getting paid strike or no strike'"
they got strike pay from the union
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If you were worried about things getting boring, don't worry. The bus drivers are considering strike action.
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 5850651.jp
To be honest, bring it on. The last time they were on strike (3 years ago?) I got to and from work in record time.
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If you were worried about things getting boring, don't worry. The bus drivers are considering strike action.
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 5850651.jp
To be honest, bring it on. The last time they were on strike (3 years ago?) I got to and from work in record time.
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| Quote ="King Whino"Sacking them all after 12 weeks would have been perfectly legal
You have hit the nail on the head'"
so leeds city council only had to string this strike out for 11 weeks in order to win the first round,by getting the bin men back to work?
expect round 2 very soon then
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| Without exception, every union representative I have ever come across has only taken the post for the perks they get from being a union representative.
Not one of the slimeballs has any interest in standing up for the rank & file workers. It’s all about getting time off to attend union meeting/ training and getting your expenses claims in.
Anyway it’s about time them lazy barstewards got back to work and emptied my frekkin bins
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Quote ="bramleyrhino"If you were worried about things getting boring, don't worry. The bus drivers are considering strike action.
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 5850651.jp
To be honest, bring it on. The last time they were on strike (3 years ago?) I got to and from work in record time.'"
I'm on tenterhooks here, what on earth will we all do if the bus conductors go on strike
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www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 5850651.jp
To be honest, bring it on. The last time they were on strike (3 years ago?) I got to and from work in record time.'"
I'm on tenterhooks here, what on earth will we all do if the bus conductors go on strike
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| Get on the push-iron ??
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"I used to be in the union but after having my job evaluated and having my salary frozen they couldnt do anything about it so I left the union.
For the next few months and even sometimes now I get snidey comments from the union leader about bottlers not up for the fight.
He doesnt seem to understand that I left because they didnt fight for one of their members.'"
In most cases you're correct. They're pretty useless when needed. The concept of unions is great, but the reality is a different matter.
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| Do we still have conductors? I haven't seen one for years!
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| My bins have been emptied once in 10 weeks, I have no use of a car during the week and have still managed quite nicely without them.
Its a dirty horrible job and the workers have been treated shoddily by management, but it has proved to me i pay too much Council Tax for very poor services generally.
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| Quote ="ryano"Do we still have conductors? I haven't seen one for years!'"
I thought that! Think the last conductor I saw on buses was the one who checked my saverstrip!
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"I thought that! Think the last conductor I saw on buses was the one who checked my saverstrip!'"
Do you mean 'conductor' or 'inspector'?
A ticket inspector was on my bus a couple of weeks ago.
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"Speaking of problems in Leeds, I notice that The Headrow has once again become gridlocked. Does anyone know why this has started up again?'"
Yes, the taxis are now ranking up there again because there wasn't the room down at the bottom end of town near Asda House where they've been operating from for the last few weeks. They are now sending three cars around onto the station from the Headrow and three from the Asda House rank. Like I said, one of the issues was the fact there wasn't enough room down the bottom end of town, but pedestrians were also starting to use the Headrow as a proper rank instead of just as a queue. This meant drivers were getting walk on fares and not having to wait to get onto the station.
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| Quote ="Glenn Quagmire"Yes, the taxis are now ranking up there again because there wasn't the room down at the bottom end of town near Asda House where they've been operating from for the last few weeks. They are now sending three cars around onto the station from the Headrow and three from the Asda House rank. Like I said, one of the issues was the fact there wasn't enough room down the bottom end of town, but pedestrians were also starting to use the Headrow as a proper rank instead of just as a queue. This meant drivers were getting walk on fares and not having to wait to get onto the station.'"
Did Daddy tell you to write that
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| Quote ="Sam Buca"Did Daddy tell you to write that
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Nope. Yo momma did.
Oh and you're making me sound like a soft lad. Just because you've put a wink on the end it doesn't mean you haven't hurt my feelings. Bully.
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| Quote ="Glenn Quagmire"Nope. Yo momma did.
Oh and you're making me sound like a soft lad. Just because you've put a wink on the end it doesn't mean you haven't hurt my feelings. Bully.'"
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| we get the dustbin and garden refuse one week and the recycling boxes(glass,paper,and plastic bottles) the next.
works pretty well
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