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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Brad Martin is constantly injured unfortunately and is again at the moment. Hes put size on but cant stay fit. At 16s he looked good but has hardly played in 18 months.
Talking to people they really love Muizz so his chance cant be far away. Hes really progressed since last year to be fair to him and has earned a chance in my opinion.
Corey Johnson is an excellent footballer but needs to improve his contact in defence. Really good player and good dummy half too.
McConnell is a good player I don't disagree with you. Hes a quiet leader in that team. Steps up when needed and when things get tough. The 19s pack is very good when all fit and playing.
Stephens is a player I really like but hes small but hes quick strong and elusive but too early yet along with Burton to be fully judged as you say.'"
Cheers. Can you see Dupree making it? Since they have come into the under 19's, you see a lot more than me. I just haven't seen anything to think he will.
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| In truth I don't know. He has some cracking games and some quieter ones but they've loaned him to York and I hope that's for a reason. Trout got loaned and played 1st team, Sutcliffe was dual reg'd and again the got a chance. If that's way club want to progress with things then Dupree could get a go soon. Hes certainly got size and an offload so we will see.
One lad who never gets a mention and is very good but hardly plays is Waite-Pullan. Hes due back from injury in next week or so. It will be interesting to see what they want to do with him cos hes too old for 19s. Hes very highly rated by people at the club.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"One lad who never gets a mention and is very good but hardly plays is Waite-Pullan. Hes due back from injury in next week or so. It will be interesting to see what they want to do with him cos hes too old for 19s. Hes very highly rated by people at the club.'"
We'll have him back pls.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Brad Martin is constantly injured unfortunately and is again at the moment. Hes put size on but cant stay fit. At 16s he looked good but has hardly played in 18 months.
Talking to people they really love Muizz so his chance cant be far away. Hes really progressed since last year to be fair to him and has earned a chance in my opinion.
Corey Johnson is an excellent footballer but needs to improve his contact in defence. Really good player and good dummy half too.
McConnell is a good player I don't disagree with you. Hes a quiet leader in that team. Steps up when needed and when things get tough. The 19s pack is very good when all fit and playing.
Stephens is a player I really like but hes small but hes quick strong and elusive but too early yet along with Burton to be fully judged as you say.'"
Marty, Gotcha, many thanks both.
Interesting thoughts. Stephens does have something, but whether that's at wing or FB in the modern game I'm not sure. He does have great footwork.
I see what you mean Gotcha about Dupree. He is big and mobile, but I don't see the X-factor that Holroyd has. For his size he should be very dominant. When Holroyd played against the Aussies he stepped up and monstered them, that's the difference.
Walters looks great going forward, but I thought he had a shocker in defence against was it Huddersfield? Not sure whether due to injury.
What happened to that Wetherby fullback, was is Sam Little?
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Marty, Gotcha, many thanks both.
Interesting thoughts. Stephens does have something, but whether that's at wing or FB in the modern game I'm not sure. He does have great footwork.
I see what you mean Gotcha about Dupree. He is big and mobile, but I don't see the X-factor that Holroyd has. For his size he should be very dominant. When Holroyd played against the Aussies he stepped up and monstered them, that's the difference.
Walters looks great going forward, but I thought he had a shocker in defence against was it Huddersfield? Not sure whether due to injury.
What happened to that Wetherby fullback, was is Sam Little?'"
I think Little is a Scholarship player isn't he? not in the academy yet.
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| They certainly wont all make it, some are already making it, but these are the handful of players from each age group i really like the look of
Finished 19's eligibility at end of last season - M Oledzki, J Walker, C Smith, D Wait Pullan
3rd Year 19's - C McCllelland, H Newman, Muizz, O Trout, T Dupree, L McConnell
2nd year 19's - T Holroyd, J Broadbent, S Walters, C Johnson, B Martin, S Moorhouse
1st year 19's - L Delaney, J Mallison, H Anderson, R Rowley, O Burton, J Burton, L Tindall, I Stephens
Scholarship u16s - T Nicholas Wattern, A Wallace, S Little, L Atkinson, J Gibbons, O Field
Scholarship u15s - L Edwards, M Gannon, K Morgan, A Edghill, H Oldroyd
7 or 8 year ago id of struggled to name ten players in our whole system who i was excited about for there future prospects, good to see the club has got its eye back on the ball. From the 16's up, every one of them apart from Mallison, Moorhouse and Wait Pullan have gained representative recognition, be it England Youth, England Academy, Yorkshire, Lancashire or England Knights.
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| Yeah sam little is scholarship u16s, his footwork is top class.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Marty, Gotcha, many thanks both.
Interesting thoughts. Stephens does have something, but whether that's at wing or FB in the modern game I'm not sure. He does have great footwork.
I see what you mean Gotcha about Dupree. He is big and mobile, but I don't see the X-factor that Holroyd has. For his size he should be very dominant. When Holroyd played against the Aussies he stepped up and monstered them, that's the difference.
Walters looks great going forward, but I thought he had a shocker in defence against was it Huddersfield? Not sure whether due to injury.
What happened to that Wetherby fullback, was is Sam Little?'"
Agree Dupree isnt the talent Holroyd is, but when he played for Yorkishire against the Aussies, Dupree had a good game against them aswel, think he's more a work in progress than Tom, but he's got what you cant teach, size and Athleticism. Dupree reminds me of Rob Mulhern when he was coming through, though id say Duprees better than Rob was at the same stage personally.
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| It’ll be interest to see where this goes with the academy dropping back to under 18s next season and the reserves returning.
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"Agree Dupree isnt the talent Holroyd is, but when he played for Yorkishire against the Aussies, Dupree had a good game against them aswel, think he's more a work in progress than Tom, but he's got what you cant teach, size and Athleticism. Dupree reminds me of Rob Mulhern when he was coming through, though id say Duprees better than Rob was at the same stage personally.'"
Traditionally we’ve not done well for props from our academy. I remember watching Luke Burgess, Nick Scruton, Bailey, Danny Ward coming through. Can’t honestly think of many then until Oledski, other than Singleton who for me has gone backwards over the last season or two.
We seem to have a few prospects now. I would love to see a dominant, home-grown Leeds pack. I reckon 2-3 years could see it.
What I will say is that we have lads with the talent in this crop, it really is down to attitude now. I guess that’s the thing among the lads though. There is a clear path for them to create a new Leeds legacy together right through.
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| Weve also got an outstanding youngster signed despite very strong interest from Saints, Warrington and Wigan but that is a couple of months off being announced
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Weve also got an outstanding youngster signed despite very strong interest from Saints, Warrington and Wigan but that is a couple of months off being announced'"
I’ll look out for that one. I keep banging on about him but Levi Edwards could be anything in the game, looked the best player on the pitch every time I’ve seen him play and has a very complete game for such a young lad. Be interesting which age group he plays next year.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Weve also got an outstanding youngster signed despite very strong interest from Saints, Warrington and Wigan but that is a couple of months off being announced'"
Is that somone from another professional club marty or a signing from the community game for our next scholarship intake?
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Traditionally we’ve not done well for props from our academy. I remember watching Luke Burgess, Nick Scruton, Bailey, Danny Ward coming through. Can’t honestly think of many then until Oledski, other than Singleton who for me has gone backwards over the last season or two.
We seem to have a few prospects now. I would love to see a dominant, home-grown Leeds pack. I reckon 2-3 years could see it.
What I will say is that we have lads with the talent in this crop, it really is down to attitude now. I guess that’s the thing among the lads though. There is a clear path for them to create a new Leeds legacy together right through.'"
Singleton always lacked the natural size to me, just dosnt pack enough punch. One thing about our current crop coming through, theyr all giants and athletic. Oledzki, Holroyd, Moorehouse, Dupree will all be around 18st when they stop growing. Nicholas Wattern in the 16's is another who's a big lad, he's got really good skills aswel.
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| Rolling over Warrington here. Warrington can't handle the physicality of the Leeds pack.
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| 58-0 win over 4th place Warrington. Just really good.
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| Fantastic performance, complete team effort, some great attacking rugby and rock solid defence.
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| Looks like something is going right anyway
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"Fantastic performance, complete team effort, some great attacking rugby and rock solid defence.'"
Everything the 1st team is lacking
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| The improvement in Muizz over the last 12 month is astounding imo, iv always liked him, but now he looks another level to what he was, absolute dynamite.
Broadbents top quality, i said when he was in scholarship and il say Again, he's as natural a as you'l find, everything you want a to do, he does it well.
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"The improvement in Muizz over the last 12 month is astounding imo, iv always liked him, but now he looks another level to what he was, absolute dynamite.
Broadbents top quality, i said when he was in scholarship and il say Again, he's as natural a Centre as you'l find, everything you want a Centre to do, he does it well.'"
Broadbent is quality isn't he? Proper centre. Thought young Joe Burton did well in other centre position today too.
No bigger champion of Muzz than me. Gee hes a powerful kid tho. Freakish.
Cant wait for next game at Wigan. Top 2 head to head should be exceptional.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Broadbent is quality isn't he? Proper centre. Thought young Joe Burton did well in other centre position today too.
No bigger champion of Muzz than me. Gee hes a powerful kid tho. Freakish.
Cant wait for next game at Wigan. Top 2 head to head should be exceptional.'"
Yeah Burtons starting to show what a talent he is aswel, thought he had a slow start to the season, which is understandable for a first year, but really finding his feet at this level now.
Muizz is a wrecking ball, he looks to be getting bigger every week, but seems to get more athletic and agile with it. Hard and aggressive aswel, love watching the lad play.
Quite a few well known faces kicking about the crowd today aswel.
The Wigan game will be a cracker, it highlights what a good job they continue to do with there youth aswel, that for all our talent , theyr right up there with us.
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| I thought muzzy handled their interchange prop Doro? really well, especially in the 2nd half. It highlights just how important the appointment of the next coach is,we need someone to mould this group of kids into a unit capable of taking us forward. I've heard a snippet of info that Agar will remain regardless till the end of the season but a big name appointment is lined up for next season.
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| Agar certainly thick as thieves with the Hetherington's today. Mustapha must have earned a chance in the first team. I'd like to see him in the 2nd row. Not the biggest for a super league prop. Think he could be devastating running out wide in the 2nd row.
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