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| Rhinos to win by 12 is my predication.
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| If Moon is out Keinhorst has to play centre.
Glenn Stewart is a big loss for Leigh. I'm very confident this will be a comfortable win for Leeds.
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Briscoe Watkins Keinhorst Hall
Mcguire Burrow/Sutcliffe
Singleton Parcell Garbutt
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Ormondroyd Walters/Mullally Cuthbertson Sutcliffe/Burrow
I would hope that we go with either of the above.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Would be Keinhorst straight in I'd imagine.'"
Also explains why Walters got back in the 19 as Keinhorst was used in the back row.
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| Quote ="Barrie's Glass Eye"Also explains why Walters got back in the 19 as Keinhorst was used in the back row.'"
doesn't explain why Baldwinson missed out though.
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| Quote ="Frosties."doesn't explain why Baldwinson missed out though.'"
Someone had to. Could have been any one of Mullaly, Baldwinson or Ormandroyd.
It does show that there are reseasons for not making the team that are completely beyond their control.
I still think Baldwinsons opportunity will come this year.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"If Moon is out Keinhorst has to play centre.
Glenn Stewart is a big loss for Leigh. I'm very confident this will be a comfortable win for Leeds.'"
Stewart, along with a number of his team mates, was a disappointment last week. I'm not sure if he's injured but, if not, he may be due for a game for Sheffield, to sharpen him up a bit!
Leigh seemed to lack energy last week, so the inclusion of three younger forwards, in Hopkins, Acton and Burr, should rectify that. (along with Higham's return) Also, if Reynolds replaces Ridyard, he is a bundle of energy, always looking to be involved, rather than wait for the game to come to him. Hopefully, we will be able to last the pace much better, over 80 minutes tomorrow. Could be a close one.
Have a safe trip over.
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| Quote ="INKERS75"Rhinos to win by 12 is my predication.
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You need a mentor like Sir Kev.He lives in neverland also.
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| Rhinos by 16 I reckon
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| Seems pretty obvious' which part don't you understand ?
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Explain how Baldwinson was supposed to be "better than the 1st choices" during a 5 minute cameo?
Same with Mullally only given ltd minutes so once again more than questionable bench use by the Coach but i suppose that's all Sutcliffes fault aswell.
Also if there is any doubt over Mcguire ala last week it's pointless naming him because even if he proves his fitness at the very last minute the starting 17 can be adjusted whether he's in the 19 or not.'"
You are just looking for sticks to beat the coach with in all your comments. Are you suggesting that Baldwinson should be selected ahead of Garbutt, Cuthbertson to Singleton? I would assume you would not. So I take it you are making the case it should be ahead of Mullally. But Mullally is ahead of Baldwinson at this stage based on experience and he too has been ok in pre-season friendlies.
For this match I had previously suggested Walters was added to the squad because of a possible injury to a back rower - well it turned out to be Moon being injured but the result was the same as Walters would replace Keinhorst's spot as the bench back rower. So to me it is logical for Baldwinson to play big minutes at Fev to keep his fitness and form as he will get plenty of chances as the season progresses but like Singleton who was brought on slowly to allow him to physically mature the same will happen to Baldwinson.
With regard to McGuire again logically he has to have selection preference over Sutcliffe at stand off with the latter likely to get a bench spot so that if Parcell needs a break we have a reserve half to come on when a Burrow covers the 9 position.
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"And?'"
It seems we have to spell it out for thicko's like you.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"You are just looking for sticks to beat the coach with in all your comments. Are you suggesting that Baldwinson should be selected ahead of Garbutt, Cuthbertson to Singleton? I would assume you would not. So I take it you are making the case it should be ahead of Mullally. But Mullally is ahead of Baldwinson at this stage based on experience and he too has been ok in pre-season friendlies.
For this match I had previously suggested Walters was added to the squad because of a possible injury to a back rower - well it turned out to be Moon being injured but the result was the same as Walters would replace Keinhorst's spot as the bench back rower. So to me it is logical for Baldwinson to play big minutes at Fev to keep his fitness and form as he will get plenty of chances as the season progresses but like Singleton who was brought on slowly to allow him to physically mature the same will happen to Baldwinson.
With regard to McGuire again logically he has to have selection preference over Sutcliffe at stand off with the latter likely to get a bench spot so that if Parcell needs a break we have a reserve half to come on when a Burrow covers the 9 position.'"
Here we go again "don't mention the Coach even when it's clear his selections etc prove players didn't get a chance to make an impact".
There's no need to look for sticks to beat anyone you stated that Badwinson hadn't done enough to warrant selection this week its there in black & white so answer the question how is he supposed to when only given 5 minutes?.
Wrt having a reserve HB we have one in Lilley but yer hero sent him on loan for a month & left us last week with Moon & Sutty at HB another great Coaching tactic no?
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| The point is no forward should be on the bench who the coach isn't willing to give big minutes to - even before anyone gets injured. Playing with a less than full bench rotation of forwards is looney tunes unless you have a pack full of Graham/Peacock types who can all play long stints. If this were a solitary case then we could argue that BM was trying to ease a young player into the team. In reality he has done this on and off over his whole tenure, and it is dumb coaching.
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[iOnly 134 seats remaining [/i in the South Stand (yours)
250 in North Stand terrace (ours) will be gone today.
East stand will be opened, a rarity & I can only remember the RL Internationals of Engand/France & Samoa & Elton John requiring East Stand open. Probably Wigan & maybe Wire at home to be the only other fixtures requiring the East Stand to be used this season.
Hope the RL Fans & Leigh RLFC make you feel welcome, should be a good night.
Stay safe.
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So what do other away fans pay?
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Here we go again "don't mention the Coach even when it's clear his selections etc prove players didn't get a chance to make an impact".
There's no need to look for sticks to beat anyone you stated that Badwinson hadn't done enough to warrant selection this week its there in black & white so answer the question how is he supposed to when only given 5 minutes?.
Wrt having a reserve HB we have one in Lilley but yer hero sent him on loan for a month & left us last week with Moon & Sutty at HB another great Coaching tactic no?'"
Most of your posts come with a "here we go again" warning by just moaning at the coach and have become repetitive and boring. You make the same point over and over again like an obsession. I bet sitting next to you on match day will be like sitting next to Victor Meldrew.
I repeat Baldwinson hasn't done enough yet to replace those above him in the prop pecking order because last week was only the first match. This is not a criticism of him but of you for complaining about selection even before the first match. Last week against a big Saints pack and bench our forwards did well on defense and for effort and fitness. Even on attack they got us in position we should have scored from so I very much doubt if playing Baldwinson or Mullally for longer would have made any difference to the result. It was the inadequacies of our playmakers that cost us a win and in particular your friend's son Sutcliffe who fluffed the most chances in their red zone.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"The point is no forward should be on the bench who the coach isn't willing to give big minutes to - even before anyone gets injured. Playing with a less than full bench rotation of forwards is looney tunes unless you have a pack full of Graham/Peacock types who can all play long stints. If this were a solitary case then we could argue that BM was trying to ease a young player into the team. In reality he has done this on and off over his whole tenure, and it is dumb coaching.'"
Most coaches will want to have their senior players on the field for the longest time and unless these either become injured so need a short rest then why replace them unless your bench is as strong as first selections.At the start of this season we have an experience prop out long term injured so that will give chances for Mullally and the youngsters to gain experience. But that doesn't mean they are yet up to replacing a first choice prop for long minutes.
IMO one of the reasons our game has gone backwards is the use of props that can only do 20 minute shifts. The sooner we get back to props that can go most or all of the game the better. In Union the props cannot be reintroduced, unless for serious injury, and the result is very large fit men doing long minutes which in their case involves proper scrummaging and lifting in the lineouts in addition to ball carrying and physical work in rucks mauls and tackles.
If you think BM's whole tenure which has brought him record coaching records is dumb then you would have to say it works overall.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"So what do other away fans pay?'"
Don't know. You are our first visitors this season. I would imagine fans of Wigan, Saints (next week) and Warrington, will pay the same as you guys.
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| Quote ="Alan"Don't know. You are our first visitors this season. I would imagine fans of Wigan, Saints (next week) and Warrington, will pay the same as you guys.'"
I think we both know your club will charge different for many clubs
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Most of your posts come with a "here we go again" warning by just moaning at the coach and have become repetitive and boring. You make the same point over and over again like an obsession. I bet sitting next to you on match day will be like sitting next to Victor Meldrew.
I repeat Baldwinson hasn't done enough yet to replace those above him in the prop pecking order because last week was only the first match. This is not a criticism of him but of you for complaining about selection even before the first match. Last week against a big Saints pack and bench our forwards did well on defense and for effort and fitness. Even on attack they got us in position we should have scored from so I very much doubt if playing Baldwinson or Mullally for longer would have made any difference to the result. It was the inadequacies of our playmakers that cost us a win and in particular your friend's son Sutcliffe who fluffed the most chances in their red zone.'"
How would you know what im like on match days when you are stuck in spain assessing performances via radio & spreadsheets?
Wrt "moaning" more assumption you pathetic hypocrite you are perfectly happy to "claim" some sort of Coaching knowledge yet single out 1 player for blame whilst ignoring the snr HB & a Coaches failure to gave any kind of back up plan or even a plan A.
Tell me uber Coach how many optional/dummy runners or set moves did either HB have in their 20m?
Also stop making this about "complaining" & answer the original question?
Finally my posts are opinions whether positive negative or indifferent & the Team get my full support from the terraces so don't assume anything you know f'all about.
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