This is it for me. Nobody expects a great performance or great rugby, but you do expect the game to be taken seriously. Pre-season games are for putting into practice what you've been training - a chance for a bit of trial and error. A chance to see how things work when put into practice....

If it's just being used as 'an opposed training session' and the coach/players see it more of a hinderance (that's certainly the impression I've got) then the club are simply using it as a money making exercise and charging £18 doesn't seem reasonable to me.

Leeds lose pre-pre-season friendly with 10 (?) players missing & several new faces making a debut and Southstander goes into meltdown.

Love it.

In the days of winter rugby the boxing day fixture was an important competitive game in the middle of the season.Nowadays very few people take these friendlies seriously.Most media don't even report the results.

As usual you miss the point - the loss is irrelevant it the club taking the p1ss out of its customers after doing the same for the previous 10 months - shows the management are slow on the uptake

You know you aren't forced to go to the match? In fact a key reason many go is just to avoid their families for a few hours over Xmas, not because of the rugby.

The guy has said in previous Boxing Day post match press conferences pretty much the same thing if not worded entirely the same, he's even said he'd prefer as a coach NOT to have a fixture on Boxing Day but has to do it as it's tradition for the club. Also I seriously doubt the guy is in charge of setting the admission cost for the game.

Brian Mcdermotts post match comments were disrespectful to the 10,300 crowd and to Wakefield Trinity who every year give it a go and appreciate that they are there to entertain which is what the sport is..entertainment. If he wanted an opposed open training session then tell the sponsor who will have paid good money for the event, the club's paying the players wages, the fans paying the equivalent of £200,000 in gate receipts etc... Trinity had such an opposed open training session at Belle Vue a couple of weeks ago v Hull KR and only charged £1 per person entry not £18. Last season BM put out a stronger team and Rhinos lost then went on to have a very poor season ....change of tactics this year putting out a second team to hide flawes in the squad as there is a lack of depth. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-7644911 The year before in 2014 Rhinos also put out a strong team and won by 50 then went on to a win the treble....think BM is living on borrowed time in 2017.

Brian Mcdermotts post match comments were disrespectful to the 10,300 crowd and to Wakefield Trinity who every year give it a go and appreciate that they are there to entertain which is what the sport is..entertainment. If he wanted an opposed open training session then tell the sponsor who will have paid good money for the event, the club's paying the players wages, the fans paying the equivalent of £200,000 in gate receipts etc... Trinity had such an opposed open training session at Belle Vue a couple of weeks ago v Hull KR and only charged £1 per person entry not £18. Last season BM put out a stronger team and Rhinos lost then went on to have a very poor season ....change of tactics this year putting out a second team to hide flawes in the squad as there is a lack of depth. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-7644911 The year before in 2014 Rhinos also put out a strong team and won by 50 then went on to a win the treble....think BM is living on borrowed time in 2017.

On the plus side, Delaney looked healthy. Evidenced by more tattoos on show and less bandages. As others have said mullalley and ormondroyd banged in. Mullalley twice got his nose through the line, the fact I am noting this as a highlight is a clue to the scale of the negative side.

Wakey looked ready to play and kear likes to get of to a flyer and hang on through the season. Leeds looked like some had bulked up but now need to get match conditioned. Keinhorst looked like a man playing In another man's body. Him at ablett and centre were awful.

As others have said the really alarming part was that Golding, Sutcliffe and lilley produced nothing in a rudderless display that matched last year. In the first half Leeds got about 4 sets on the line mainly through luck. On the first tackle of another repeat set Sutcliffe ran laterally to he corner flag which he did all game, produced the usual dummy were he does not even look right and got caught, threw a hopeful ball to briscoe before being pushed into touch before Leeds lost the ball. Utterly clueless.

Leeds have 10 to come in etc but only McGuire as a potential game manager. Based on that , Unless Leeds sign another half (which they won't) Joel moon will have to play 6 to make us even vaguely threatening.

Agree with others, pre match McD was saying we need to show some sharpness and that a flat performance last year rolled into a poor season. Yesterday was even worse and now it is just a training run.

I think fans patience will wear thin pretty quickly this year if tripe liked that gets served up in the first few rounds.

Both McD and GH will get it in the neck because with no signings and the same clueless work ball in hand it could be.grim viewing. I thought Leeds would look much sharper and coordinated, I was very much mistaken.

Quote ="asmadasa"Brian Mcdermotts post match comments were disrespectful to the 10,300 crowd and to Wakefield Trinity who every year give it a go and appreciate that they are there to entertain which is what the sport is..entertainment. If he wanted an opposed open training session then tell the sponsor who will have paid good money for the event, the club's paying the players wages, the fans paying the equivalent of £200,000 in gate receipts etc... Trinity had such an opposed open training session at Belle Vue a couple of weeks ago v Hull KR and only charged £1 per person entry not £18. Last season BM put out a stronger team and Rhinos lost then went on to have a very poor season ....change of tactics this year putting out a second team to hide flawes in the squad as there is a lack of depth. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-7644911 The year before in 2014 Rhinos also put out a strong team and won by 50 then went on to a win the treble....think BM is living on borrowed time in 2017.'" Well said. If it is a training session make it £5 entry to all, the club deserve plenty of stick and so does he after producing that after 3 months of training. Time for a change for mine.

Quote ="asmadasa"Brian Mcdermotts post match comments were disrespectful to the 10,300 crowd and to Wakefield Trinity who every year give it a go and appreciate that they are there to entertain which is what the sport is..entertainment. If he wanted an opposed open training session then tell the sponsor who will have paid good money for the event, the club's paying the players wages, the fans paying the equivalent of £200,000 in gate receipts etc... Trinity had such an opposed open training session at Belle Vue a couple of weeks ago v Hull KR and only charged £1 per person entry not £18. Last season BM put out a stronger team and Rhinos lost then went on to have a very poor season ....change of tactics this year putting out a second team to hide flawes in the squad as there is a lack of depth. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-7644911 The year before in 2014 Rhinos also put out a strong team and won by 50 then went on to a win the treble....think BM is living on borrowed time in 2017.'" Well said. If it is a training session make it £5 entry to all, the club deserve plenty of stick and so does he after producing that after 3 months of training. Time for a change for mine.

It has been said before that a major reason for the game is the income it generates in the office season.

If that's really how the club see it and having bearing on the season, they should send the team out to play Globetrotter stuff. Entertain the crowd and keep them coming back. Sure more people would go at the thought of a 60 - 80 point game.

Out of interest, how were the young lads who came off the bench?

I'm missing the point, really? Why didn't you go Sal?

Probably for the same reason I didn't...
Because it's always been nothing more than a pre-season training session and i've got better things to do on Boxing Day.

But don't let the opportunity of a good moan and some faux outrage pass you by.

No, this just isn't on. It looks like the caterers weren't taking the game seriously either. https://twitter.com/big_eric2611/status ... 9345815552 Mac out.

No, this just isn't on. It looks like the caterers weren't taking the game seriously either. https://twitter.com/big_eric2611/status ... 9345815552 Mac out.

Nice Twitter link.

The WF3 based complainant who describes himself as a Fellow Thorper (just like Ryan Hall) is also a fan of Katie Hopkins, Nigel Farage and Stephen Yaxley Lennon (who?) as well as dodgy £3.50 chicken burgers from HQ therefore he deserves everything he gets



I'm a big fan of Twitter these days.

If it weren't for Twitter, I wouldn't have known of the meltdown experienced yesterday by one particular forum member who hasn't posted here for a while.

It's refreshing to know that he feels more comfortable expressing his views on Twitter instead.

Quote ="loiner81"No, this just isn't on. It looks like the caterers weren't taking the game seriously either. https://twitter.com/big_eric2611/status ... 9345815552 Mac out.'" I'm glad we're finally addressing the key issues that came out of yesterdays debacle That's never chicken in that burger

Quote ="loiner81"No, this just isn't on. It looks like the caterers weren't taking the game seriously either. https://twitter.com/big_eric2611/status ... 9345815552 Mac out.'" I'm glad we're finally addressing the key issues that came out of yesterdays debacle That's never chicken in that burger

It's Soylent Green coated in breadcrumbs and then fried.

Spot on post Mark L.
Once again Loiner 81 & Printer sensationally miss the point but then again because we've been successful in the past any old sh*# should be acceptable right?
As for faux outrage & a moan again completely missing the points been made especially wrt the lack of structure & hypocritical response from the Coach.

Quote ="loiner81"No, this just isn't on. It looks like the caterers weren't taking the game seriously either. https://twitter.com/big_eric2611/status ... 9345815552 Mac out.'" Have McDonald's got a franchise at Headingley?

Quote ="loiner81"No, this just isn't on. It looks like the caterers weren't taking the game seriously either. https://twitter.com/big_eric2611/status ... 9345815552 Mac out.'" Have McDonald's got a franchise at Headingley?

Nope not missing the points at all. Merely pointing out people on here are grown adults fully capable of making their own decisions on whether to attend the match with no gun pointed at their head. Let's be honest McDermott could've called it a training run BEFORE the match and it wouldn't have had much effect on the attendance.

Sorry but anyone who thinks yesterday's game and all previous Boxing Day matches, since the birth of summer rugby. were ever anything more than a marketing & training exercise isn't just missing the point..... they're also missing a few brain cells.

That must include the hypocrite Coach then because BEFORE the game it mattered & he refers to last years game more than once as a marker for what then occured throughout 2016.
Also you weren't there flower so can't even comprehend how bad it actually was & that's allowing for the result not mattering or that its a friendly

Just so we are clear no-one went yesrerday expecting a GF winning performance or a 60-0 drubbling full of free flowing International standard RL.
What was served up compared to previous years & allowing for selection pre-season & it being a friendly was 100% garbage from start to finish for every reason outlined.

Welcome to the world of sport. Performance isn't a gimme and teams and individuals have flopped on the biggest of occasions never mind a friendly.

We used to actually win Boxing Day games in the early 80's.

Having been to the match......this is a very accurate report. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-8306454

Having been to the match......this is a very accurate report. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-8306454

We did indeed.

Boxing Day 1980 lost 2-5 at home to Fev courtesy of a penalty goal to Kevin Dick for Leeds and a Steve Evans try converted by Steve Quinn for Fev. Leeds team that day was Hague, D. Smith, Wilkinson, Heselwood, Atkinson, Holmes, Dick, Harrison, Ward, Pitchford, Eccles, Carroll, Cookson... Subs: Dickinson, Dyl.

Boxing Day 1983 beat Fulham at home 30-6... Tries to Andrew Smith (2), Trevor Clark, David Creasser, Gary Moorby and Keith Rayne and three Creasser goals. Fulham try David Hull, goaled by Steve Diamond.

Boxing Day 1984 beat Cas at home 20-14... Tries to Mark Conway, David Creasser, Paul Gill and four goals to Creasser. Cas tries Ron Sigsworth, Kevin Ward and three goals by Robert Beardmore.

Boxing Day 1985 beat Dewsbury at home 28-8... Tries to Kevin Dick (2), Tony Currie, Andrew Smith and six goals from Creasser. Dewsbury try Chris Mita and two goals from Chris Vasey.

The whole point of pre season games are to get some structure (as well as making money on this one ) sadly structure and Mac do not go together