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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Only 17 no need to rushing his development.I'm sure over the nest couple of yeas we will see more and more of him.Him and Walters could be a mouthwatering second row partnership. Plus Edwards also to be in the mix.'"
Three fantastic prospects there. Not seen much of Gannon to be honest but immediately he looks right.
No idea where Edwards will end up playing but he'll be in the 17 over the next year or two.
Hope Broadbent has a good game, I'd love to see him develop this year and cement his place in the squad.
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| Quote ="Shabino"Eastmond will only play 2-3 games before an injury spell. We know that, but he's quality and we were on our knees when he became available....'"
We do not know he is quality , he may have been once upon a time but that ship has sailed now
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"We do not know he is quality , he may have been once upon a time but that ship has sailed now'"
Just so I am clear, we don’t know he is quality but you know that the he is quality ship has now sailed? Can’t have it both ways can you.
Bottom line he has not played much rugby for a year, he hasn’t played RL for a number of years, he has come back into a team struggling, no fixed half back with him and a spine being changed every game.
Give the lad a chance will you, let him play 5-10 games with Gale and some first choice strike outside him and then we can have a chat about if his ship has sailed or not.
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| Quote ="doc-rhino"another bad value signing'"
Absolute crazy comment, bad value signing when he has played 2 games coming off not much rugby and no RL for a number of years?
Also I understood he had a massive reduction in salary at least this year because he has come back from RU.
As per my last comment everybody wants to knock him, why don’t we just let him play a few games with a settled side around him before we decide if he is a bad value signing or not.
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| Quote ="Lprhino"Absolute crazy comment, bad value signing when he has played 2 games coming off not much rugby and no RL for a number of years?
Also I understood he had a massive reduction in salary at least this year because he has come back from RU.
As per my last comment everybody wants to knock him, why don’t we just let him play a few games with a settled side around him before we decide if he is a bad value signing or not.'" you see him playing a few games?
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| Quote ="Lprhino"Absolute crazy comment, bad value signing when he has played 2 games coming off not much rugby and no RL for a number of years?
Also I understood he had a massive reduction in salary at least this year because he has come back from RU.
As per my last comment everybody wants to knock him, why don’t we just let him play a few games with a settled side around him before we decide if he is a bad value signing or not.'"
Also, is he off the cap for first year and only half salary counts next year?
It’s a gamble but as you say we need to give him a chance.
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| Quote ="Lprhino"Absolute crazy comment, bad value signing when he has played 2 games coming off not much rugby and no RL for a number of years?
Also I understood he had a massive reduction in salary at least this year because he has come back from RU.
As per my last comment everybody wants to knock him, why don’t we just let him play a few games with a settled side around him before we decide if he is a bad value signing or not.'"
100% correct.
People expecting him to be back to his best after 2 games in 10 years and not played any rugby in 2 years are just being ridiculous but our fanbase has plenty of ridiculousness in it.
We have more critics than suppprters.
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| Quote ="Lprhino"Just so I am clear, we don’t know he is quality but you know that the he is quality ship has now sailed? Can’t have it both ways can you.
Bottom line he has not played much rugby for a year, he hasn’t played RL for a number of years, he has come back into a team struggling, no fixed half back with him and a spine being changed every game.
Give the lad a chance will you, let him play 5-10 games with Gale and some first choice strike outside him and then we can have a chat about if his ship has sailed or not.'"
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"100% correct.
People expecting him to be back to his best after 2 games in 10 years and not played any rugby in 2 years are just being ridiculous but our fanbase has plenty of ridiculousness in it.
We have more critics than suppprters.'" and possibly the cheerleaders on here are less supportive in the ground than the pragmatists and realists
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| Quote ="doc-rhino"and possibly the cheerleaders on here are less supportive in the ground than the pragmatists and realists'"
We definately need the cheerleaders back this season.
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| Quote ="doc-rhino"and possibly the cheerleaders on here are less supportive in the ground than the pragmatists and realists'"
Pragamist? You were advocating getting rid of all but a handful of players yesterday. That is not the voice of pragmatism.
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If no Eastmond, then Sutcliffe to HB, Mellor to C, Martin to SR, O’Connor to LF.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"Pragamist? You were advocating getting rid of all but a handful of players yesterday. That is not the voice of pragmatism.'" but being realistic no ones going to take them off us so stuck with them
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| Quote ="doc-rhino"but being realistic no ones going to take them off us so stuck with them'"
Why do you watch something you clearly dont enjoy? Dont get it at all.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Why do you watch something you clearly dont enjoy? Dont get it at all.'"
I know where he/she's coming from. You get used to champagne rugby and unprecedented success every year. You then just can't accept us being pretty average and are looking for quick fixes, and return to glory days. You can get very negative and bitter. Happened to me. I stepped back and see things in whole diferrent light now....
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| Quote ="Shabino"I know where he/she's coming from. You get used to champagne rugby and unprecedented success every year. You then just can't accept us being pretty average and are looking for quick fixes, and return to glory days. You can get very negative and bitter. Happened to me. I stepped back and see things in whole diferrent light now....'"
Constantly comparing this team with the greatest team weve ever had in our 120+ year history how crazy or fair is that? Newman is rubbish cos hes not Keith Senior, i mean come on.Think a lot of our fans are same tho, we got spoiled for years and many cant accept it couldnt last forever.
I just dont get why anyone would watch something they moan about every week. Find something else to do with your leisure time. But i suppose its his/her choice.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Constantly comparing this team with the greatest team weve ever had in our 120+ year history how crazy or fair is that? Newman is rubbish cos hes not Keith Senior, i mean come on.Think a lot of our fans are same tho, we got spoiled for years and many cant accept it couldnt last forever.
I just dont get why anyone would watch something they moan about every week. Find something else to do with your leisure time. But i suppose its his/her choice.'"
Yeah spot on. This is our leisure time at end of day, and it's supposed to be something we enjoy. But as I said when your stuck In a rut and can't get yourself out of the negative mindset it's pretty tough. We just need to support and encourage our fellow posters. I was pretty sarcastic and bit disrespectful to some fans on here yesterday too about their unrealistic expectations. Did it make me feel good? No not really, but hard to stop some bad habits, and the virtual world amplifies all our bad qualities I guess.....
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| Quote ="Shabino"Yeah spot on. This is our leisure time at end of day, and it's supposed to be something we enjoy. But as I said when your stuck In a rut and can't get yourself out of the negative mindset it's pretty tough. We just need to support and encourage our fellow posters. I was pretty sarcastic and bit disrespectful to some fans on here yesterday too about their unrealistic expectations. Did it make me feel good? No not really, but hard to stop some bad habits, and the virtual world amplifies all our bad qualities I guess.....'"
The thing about Doc is tho is that he responds by saying he would rather be that way than the likes of some who are positive but I dont think there is any poster on here that thinks we are where we need to be. Christopher is the most positive on here i think but he says we need to get better and rightly so. I feel same way, so does Jimbo and you do too.
Doc is just knocking the club for everything tho. Winning the cup wasnt good enough for him cos it was only Salford we beat. Not sure club can choose who makes it thru to Wembley with them lol.
Of course Doc is entitled to post what he likes but jeez there has to be some understanding and accepting of where the club is at and that the golden era has past. There are some real positives at the club but we arent at the level of Saints, Wigan etc but were closer than people think we are. We challenged both recently with very weak teams.
If i was as unhappy with the players and the club as he is i would stop watching. I really would. He doesnt like the atmosphere when we can go watch anyway so why go. I bet hes got a ticket for one of the 2 games but that could go to someone who wants to support the team rather than moan about everything and harp on about it was much better in the old days.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"The thing about Doc is tho is that he responds by saying he would rather be that way than the likes of some who are positive but I dont think there is any poster on here that thinks we are where we need to be. Christopher is the most positive on here i think but he says we need to get better and rightly so. I feel same way, so does Jimbo and you do too.
Doc is just knocking the club for everything tho. Winning the cup wasnt good enough for him cos it was only Salford we beat. Not sure club can choose who makes it thru to Wembley with them lol.
Of course Doc is entitled to post what he likes but jeez there has to be some understanding and accepting of where the club is at and that the golden era has past. There are some real positives at the club but we arent at the level of Saints, Wigan etc but were closer than people think we are. We challenged both recently with very weak teams.
If i was as unhappy with the players and the club as he is i would stop watching. I really would. He doesnt like the atmosphere when we can go watch anyway so why go. I bet hes got a ticket for one of the 2 games but that could go to someone who wants to support the team rather than moan about everything and harp on about it was much better in the old days.'"
Just on this, I am quite a positive poster on here and I do get ‘annoyed’ maybe not annoyed but frustrated to read endless moaning and criticism but only when its of s hyperbolic and non pragmatic nature.
I could probably guarantee i get as upset with performances as much as anyone on here, and get annoyed at poor performances but I like to think that I can be pragmatic about them. At the end of the day supporting this team is my past time, mu outlet from the rest of the stuff going in in my life. I’ve openly admitted that not having that couple of hours a week going to the games during lockdown has actually been one of the hardest things to deal with during the pandemic for me. This is why I’m baffled how some people seem to spend their time on something that ‘appears’ to make them so miserable - I’m sure that’s not actually the case, forums like this are generally exaggerations of real people’s opinions but still some of the bile directed at the club and players I personally think is way over the top, which is why I call it out sometimes.
I often get accused of being a clapping seal or some other pejorative, which is fine I am quite a self aware person, but I think what annoys me most about this forum is the lack of proper discussion as it can tend to just go down a mud slinging route, theres no discussion to be had with people who just think the whole team/coaches and club in general is crap, I’m sure they don’t actually think that but if they do, why bother?
Is the team where I would like it to be at the moment? No, however Im a realist snd can see how much progress we have made in the last 2 years and the one thing I am really pleased and proud (maybe that’s a strong word) of is the teams effort and seemingly the will to work for each other and the coach which is not an easy thing to instill, if they looked like they didn’t care I would be as critical as anyone on here.
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| Yeah well said both Marty and Christopher.
Belittling the CC Win last year annoys the hell out of me. Salford were a bloody good team last year, and played really well in that game. Every other team is always desperate for a CC win. We were also given no chance vs Wigan in semi. We absolutely nailed that game. It was a coaching masterpiece. Yet Agar and players are still getting some serious stick as you say.
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| Quote ="Shabino"Yeah well said both Marty and Christopher.
Belittling the CC Win last year annoys the hell out of me. Salford were a bloody good team last year, and played really well in that game. Every other team is always desperate for a CC win. We were also given no chance vs Wigan in semi. We absolutely nailed that game. It was a coaching masterpiece. Yet Agar and players are still getting some serious stick as you say.
Agree not on.........'"
Its a nonesense argument, if the CC was so easy to win and we were such a poor team how come someone else didn’t win it?
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| I feel a bit sorry for Chris Chester, he comes across as a good bloke and he's been doing a battling job at Wakefield there for a long time. Cas and Wakey are both real traditional RL clubs right back from their mining heritage and I quite like that about them.
However sympathy goes out the window tonight because I think this is our time to turn things around at Leeds. We are still underdone even with some bodies back but I just feel we needed that CC week off and I expect us to be difficult to beat tonight. Johnstone missing for Wakefield is a big miss for them because he's caused us problems every time we've played them over the last season or two.
Getting big T and Myler back next week will be another boost. Although if Broadbent goes well it'll be interesting to see where Myler slots back in. Looking forward to this one.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"I feel a bit sorry for Chris Chester, he comes across as a good bloke and he's been doing a battling job at Wakefield there for a long time. Cas and Wakey are both real traditional RL clubs right back from their mining heritage and I quite like that about them.
However sympathy goes out the window tonight because I think this is our time to turn things around at Leeds. We are still underdone even with some bodies back but I just feel we needed that CC week off and I expect us to be difficult to beat tonight. Johnstone missing for Wakefield is a big miss for them because he's caused us problems every time we've played them over the last season or two.
Getting big T and Myler back next week will be another boost. Although if Broadbent goes well it'll be interesting to see where Myler slots back in. Looking forward to this one.'" I think Myler will back at Fullback and Broadbent may well find himself out the team.
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