I personaly belief that Mc didn't think Mcshane quiet ready for Manly and therefore elected to run with Burrow until after WCC giving him time to prepare. If it comes off all well and good, not lost a lot if it doesn't. Personaly think its a waste of talent but I also thought the coach was not up to it so what do I know.Mc Shane will get his chance and for me is still well in front of Hood.

McShane didn't get on at Wigan because Smith got injured and we ran out of substitutions under the new rules. True story, our coach said so.

We have only played 2 games! I am sure McShane has a lot more patience than you appear to have and will take his opportunity when it comes. I guess he also he has been kept quite busy with his work and doesn't have the same spare time as you to dwell on such things. How many threads have you posted on this same selection topic now?

Are you stalking me now ?

If an employee with a different skills set to mine in a different role, but yet was still favoured and sent on a lucrative rewarding job I was contracted to do with the appropriate labelled title, no I wouldn't have the patience. to hang around.

Even if that skill set, while slightly different, was still offering away to fulfill the role using a different methodology, you were still being paid so the "lucrative" part was irrelevant and you were aware that the role would need filling on an ongoing basis for several years, during which time you were satisfied that you would be considered for it, and the time so far had been, in fact, a very tiny percentage of the length of your tenure?

Up to you I suppose.

Maybe that or maybe some other reason. Whatever the reason it simply isn't good enough.

For years now we've had to put up with the likes of Tony Smith, Brian McLennan and now McDermott making atrocious decisions, selecting the wrong players in the wrong positions, demoralising the players and generally presiding over the destruction of the club.

It's not as if any of them have found a winning formula is it.

I wouldn't worry too much about this. Nantwich is only worried because in his eyes McShane will be past his prime by the end of the year and we should get the best out of him him before he has to make way for someone a bit younger.

Certainly not



Interesting analogy Nantwich. But perhaps a more realistic one would be the following:

You (as you have introduced yourself into the senario) as a largely unproven junior employee with limited senior experience as yet, who has been employed by the market leading company as an assistant distribution manager. The previous excellent senior distribution manager has moved abroad for personal reasons leaving a vacancy.

The company has decided not to advertise the post externally but give the opportunity to yourself and a promising junior to compete and prove you can step up to the plate and become the senior distribution manager on merit. To encourage you further the company has printed you a new business card with the title of distribution manager but on the understanding that this does not guarantee that the job is yours full time just yet.

However there is a big important and previously arranged negotiation to undertake and the company has decided to ask one of its most experienced and senior excecutives from another department, but with good experience of distribution management, to head up this forthcoming deal.

If your reaction to this situation is to head for the door then I would suggest you are not the sort of character that this company is looking for. If your reaction is to buckle down and prove to the boss that he has to give you the job on merit then you are demonstrating that you have the character to become successfull in your future career.

Maybe he'd prefer him to be moved to second-row when JJB goes to stand-off.

Hopefully he'll get a chance at Leeds eventually if not then the club have treated the player terribly, He was in very good form last year after a consistent run of games the Castleford game was a particular stand out performance IMO.

So why give him the number 9 shirt?

It's a squad number these days, not a positional number.

He gave BJB the number 2 shirt but preferred Smith.
I think if the players deserve to be in the team on merit then that`s not a bad thing.
To pick Kirke ahead of possibly Clarkson and Moore does make that seem someone is telling porkies.

Sorry but Smith doesn't deserve number 2 shirt and I always thought single numbers were first team choice??

Buderus wouldn't be happy being on the bench

Just as well he wasn't then isn't it.

Exactly

Gosh where do you find the time ?

For a lot of the time in Leeds colours he was wasn't he ??

He spent a lot of time on the bench didn't he ?? I remember Diskin starting many times.

Ah but he was though

You thought wrong. Otherwise it would be pretty dispiriting to have been given the number 18 shirt and know that, whatever you did in training, you could only play if someone else was injured.

Not withstanding that, to name but a few, Peacock, JJB and Sinfield don't have single numbers...

At Leeds numbers 1 to 17 usually roughly equate to the anticipated gameday squad selections when exeryone is available. Indeed when the numbers are announced at Headingley during pre-season Leeds usually talk in terms of players moving up the numbers as a sign of promotion within the squad.

While some posters are having a bit of fun here can any of them actual point to an example of a player given such a lofty squad number without an expectation of featuring regularly when fit? Of course McShane has been selected in both opening fixtures so far so cannot be considered an example of such as yet.

SL Era number 9's at Leeds:
1996 - Mick Shaw
1997 - Wayne Collins
1998 to 2000 - Lee Jackson
2001 - Robbie Mears
2002 to 2008 - Matt Diskin
2009 to 2011 - Danny Buderus
2012 - Paul McShane

No, but I would suggest that if you award a squad number and the person you give it to doesn't appear the best option in training in subsequent weeks, you can change your mind.

I'm sure we'll see plenty of game time from McShane this year, but you can't assume you're in the team just because you have a 1-17 squad number.

Squad numbers shouldn't come into it. But been the only player in that position who is fit to play should.