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| Quote ="tad rhino"have we signed a prop/2nd row?
have we promoted a prop/2nd row from within
the answer i believe is no.
ergo, the pack is lighter than last year. that simple enough for your simple brain'"
Come on Tad, play along. It's easy enough. Two simple questions, asked...how many times now? Why can't you answer them?
What role did those two players play in their time here?
Who played those roles this season?
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| they have not been replaced like for like as i have pointed out. the child fails to see this or chooses to play dumb.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Clearly they have been replaced otherwise we would be going into games with a 15 man squad. The real question is have the been replaced by equivalent or better players?
One disappointing aspect seems to be that Bluey isn't getting the players to fulfil their obvious potential. Now this could be deliberate, to "save themselves" for later in the season when it "matters more". If this is the case it's a risky strategy as supporters will cotton on and just stop going to "games that don't matter" during the regular season.'"
Thankfully, someone who can see what's what.
Have the players been replaced by the same or better, or was that ever realistic? The players that remained, how have they progressed or regressed?
All players have an individual level of ability and potential. As a team they seem to be playing well below their ability, and having a couple of other players in the squad also playing below their ability clearly isn't the solution.
Anyway....watching Tad evade and get all grumpy is fun
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| Quote ="tad rhino"they have not been replaced like for like as i have pointed out. the child fails to see this or chooses to play dumb.'"
Hey! Where did "like for like" come from?
Never knew the players had twin brothers of equal ability available to sign.
Why are you so unable or unwilling to answer those two simple questions?
What role did those two players play in their time here?
Who played those roles this season?
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| This year the referees are allowing a more NRL style play the ball which means they are allowing it to be slowed down by the defending team. Leeds game is based on a quick play the ball and they arent as good at slowing the game down as other teams. Hence, teams are getting on top of us.
Why the RFL are allowing the game to be dominated by spoiling tactics I dont know.
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| i didn't evade. i pointed out we were light in the forwards.you obviously disagree. maths not your strong point?
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| Quote ="tad rhino"i didn't evade. i pointed out we were light in the forwards.you obviously disagree. maths not your strong point?'"
Come on Tad, just answer, and we can move on. You know I'll keep asking until you do.
What role did those two players play in their time here?
Who played those roles this season?
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| childish, very,very childish.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"One disappointing aspect seems to be that Bluey isn't getting the players to fulfil their obvious potential. Now this could be deliberate, to "save themselves" for later in the season when it "matters more". If this is the case it's a risky strategy as supporters will cotton on and just stop going to "games that don't matter" during the regular season.'" in the past our 'rested games' have mostly been won, or we have only slightly been off the pace. that isn't the case here, we have looked crap. struggled to create anything, playing one out rugby, and not even doing that well, how many times tonight did no one look interested in taking the ball up. the defence has been awful at times.
i know who i'd be looking at for all the whole team not playing well
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| Quote ="tad rhino"childish, very,very childish.
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Tad! Just answer! Why are you unable and unwilling?
What role did those two players play in their time here?
Who played those roles this season?
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| what would you like me to do? name all the props and second rows we have?
why?
i made the point ellis and scruton have not been replaced as like for like players i.e. a prop and second row.
all i get is childish repetitive answers and i'm still waiting for you to answer that you believe we are as strong in the forwards as last season numbers wise
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| So who have replaced Ellis and Scruton in the Leeds squad?
The team may still have 17 players selected but is the squad bigger or smaller to select from?
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| i think the childish point he is trying to make, while refusing to answer, is that because we play 2 props and 2 second rows in the 13 we are not weaker.
like i said purile and childish
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| Very nearly nilled.
When was the last time we were nilled.
Was it two games in a week back in 89? Widnes 0-38 Bradford 0-5?
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| answered by tvoc elsewhere i believe
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| Quote ="tad rhino"what would you like me to do? name all the props and second rows we have?
why?
i made the point ellis and scruton have not been replaced as like for like players i.e. a prop and second row.
all i get is childish repetitive answers and i'm still waiting for you to answer that you believe we are as strong in the forwards as last season numbers wise'"
No Tad.
I just want you to answer the two questions I asked.
If I wanted you to name all the props and second rows we had, I woudl have asked "what are the names of all the props and second rows we have?"
When what I actually asked was
What role did those two players play in their time here?
Who played those roles this season?
Now, if you can answer those, we can move on and have a sensible discussion. If you can't answer, then we'll be stuck in this cycle of copy and pasting until Celtic Crusaders win the Super League Grand Final.
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| Quote ="tvoc"So who have replaced Ellis and Scruton in the Leeds squad?
The team may still have 17 players selected but is the squad bigger or smaller to select from?'"
That partly depends what role you think they played in the squad last year. Hence the repeated question to Tad.
AFAIK, last year and this year, the club have named a 25 or 26 man first team squad, as they have most recent years.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"i think the childish point he is trying to make, while refusing to answer, is that because we play 2 props and 2 second rows in the 13 we are not weaker.
like i said purile and childish'"
It was an open question and certainly not aimed at you tad.
To answer my own question I would say that the squad is smaller in number and weaker in quality this season than it has been for the last two Championship winning ones.
That is not a failure in coaching although that obviously appears to be another issue on most of this season's showings.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"pathetic'"
I'm not the one hiding behind my screen and keyboard, afraid to answer a couple of simple questions:
What role did those two players play in their time here?
Who played those roles this season?
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| aw well at least the reserves won
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| i know mate, and that is the point i was, clearly, making. the squad may be the same size but we have not the quality of recent seasons or the strength in depth of previous seasons.
we have certainly a weaker pack than in recent seasons both in quality and depth.
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| i agree our pack is not as deep or as strong, we are obviously missing ellis and his replacement eastwood.
players like kirke, ablett and burgess do have occasional good games but are not consistent hence why we we are losing a few games at the moment.
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| So I'm guessing we were $h1t again?
So I'm gueesing we were cluless in attack again?
So I'm guessing our ever weakening forward pack got ted again?
I'm just guessing mind as I wasn't at the match, I was actually watching a pack with some cajones sticking it to Stains. But hey, there's always next year, we can just have a rest this year and watch other teams win stuff. We used to enjoy it for years and years.
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