Struggling a bit during the season, most folk can handle.

No sign of ANY improvements and indeed "playing like a pub team" - Unacceptable.

2011 was IMO Brian's best season. He started with a new club and obviously wanted to do a few different things. As I remember there was a penalty fest by refs at the start of that season and Leeds were getting hit with 20+ per game sometimes. We started without Mags and Peacock (both knee reconstructs) and didn't quite click early doors and lost a lot of games early season but from April we were fine, we scored just about the same number of league points as Wigan but with our poor start we could only make 5th. After the CC we were pretty much the form team going into the playoffs. We had Mags and Peacock back. Not such a surprise as it looked when we got to OT.
2012 we started like we finished 2011 but then the wheels came off and it looked like everyone forgot how to play. This was where we got to see McD's confusing coaching effect. The players dug him out of that one by producing a truly heroic win against Wigan in the playoffs which was one of the gutsiest I've ever seen.
But that's a long time ago now.

Is that you Gary?.........

My inside man tells me Rob and Macca have had a falling out.

That was last year.

Couldn't happen again? This has come right from the inside, so take it or leave it.

I meant they fell out last year. As far as I was told they never actually resolved it, just forced by Hetherington.

Player X falls out of favor with BMcD shocker..!!!

Taking Sinny and JP out of it; is their a player that BMcD is on decent terms with?

Seems like all we hear from those in the know is "Brian has had a falling out with..."

Well then you're going to finish bottom of the league then ! Or at best have the Super 8's to look forward to!
Is that what you really want Leeds fans?

Its just reality McD has enough credit in the bank for the people who are running the club for him to stay beyond this season. If we are struggling at Easter next year then maybe that opinion will change. That is just my own personal opinion of where club see the situation.

I have MORE inside knowledge than you and they were best mates last year but this year Mcdermott said something Burrow didn't like so they fell out.

I bet you don't even know about the ''pie incident'' involving a certain player with the letter e in their second name.

I know things.

So that narrows it down to about 10 players.

This sounds most disturbing. Professional athletes eating pies, all very Steve Pitchford. Is this the real factor behind our lack of pace and stodgy displays.

Can you spill the beans, sorry gravy on the detail of pie-gate. Was it a steak pie? Was short crust involved? Oh no sorry, you said an e in the surname.

Please provide more meat on the bones

Be careful you are in danger of launching a pie thread. If you recall the cake thread ran for months if not years.

I tend to agree. I think that is the most likely scenario at the moment. Relationships though can change quickly in pressure situations, hard to predict with any certainty.

Most likely scenario for me is McDermott stays but the coaching structure is re-vamped with him only being responsible for the first team and a head of rugby brought in to whom McDermott will report.

GH will be far too busy with the stadium redevelopment on top of his current role

Yes me too.Like it or not, McDermott does have enough legitimate excuses too for the demise when reporting to GH. I don't like to use them myself, and there certainly shouldn't be any excuses for us being as bad as we are at times and rooted to the the foot of the table, but the reality is that since game one against Warrington the guy has had nowhere near his full squad to choose from.

Iv'e said before i think he will get his players back for Middle 8's and we will rip through it and GH will spin it as business as usual for next year after a blip out of the clubs control. I personally think things run much deeper and Mac has just run his race as head coach, and feel we will be here mid season next year after his dismissal asking why action wasn't taken earlier, but it certainly looks like he will be given the chance to dig himself out of this hole.

I agree if we seem to be improving towards the Middle 8s, but I do think GH must be at least toying with a Plan B if we still look dreadful going into those games.

Well we do have one or two that obviously spend time in Mrs Miggins's pie shop. One player is inclined to mince while another prefers tart. The club having had a lot of custard pies recently has changed their order to a large humble pie but this rumour may turn out to be rhubarb.

I believe it was more like an 'American Pie'... if you know what I mean

We have enough excuses to scrape in to the top 8 and maybe finish 6/7 after 30 rounds, if he fails to do that then I think he has to go at the end of the year.
I dont know the reality, but I always had GH down as a pretty ruthless guy who only really cares about winning trophies and keeping the club in profit- he might care about bring through young players also (but that could be from a business standpoint as much as anything)

If GH can get a better coach in for next year he will almost definitely do it- Powell or Robinson preferably. If he can't find someone with enough pedigree then Mac will probably get another year to turn it around

Brian McDermott's Leeds are currently on a run of eight successive away defeats in all comps - the only other time this has happened to Leeds since the re-introduction of two divisions (1973/74) was under Doug Laughton 1991/92 to 1992/93 - the sequence started with the Offiah 10 try game at Central Park although the biggest cheer was reserved for the Paul Dixon effort, pity most of them were delivered ironically.

Since the return of divisional RL Leeds have never lost nine straight away from Headingley. Next game is away at the Halliwell Jones where - when facing Warrington - Leeds have lost on their last five visits, although they did record a win last time at the ground in the Challenge Cup Semi Final V St Helens.

Its getting to the point where the aim should be all about survival. That means there should be no picking of semi-fit players. IMO a review of this season would suggest that this was and is a stupid tactic. I'd also suggest any serious review really needs to ask what on earth our fitness and conditioning guys have been doing.

Its all because of the floods - can't function without Kirkstall!! the fact other teams can function with significantly inferior facilities should not be considered. We are Leeds and we must have Kirkstall.

Gawwy should sell tickets to the clubs end of season review.

Be his biggest money spinner this year.