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We're apparently finished every time we lose a match. Have been since about 2006.

I don't buy the "they wanted it more" line either. I think they just played better than us. Our line speed was good, when we got to the collision we were good. There were errors of execution in attack and defence. Hudds took their chances, we didn't. Not sure how much deeper we need to look for explanations.

About as deep as your knowledge will take us I reckon, might be enough, might not be.

Perhaps Which should carry out a test on team sports. They might find that RL is a Best Buy...

+1 on the inclusion on the Video Ref commentary. Instructive to get some insight into the thought process, running through slomo then at normal speed, indicating when the ball is lost etc. Expect that to be introduced with great fanfare in RU before the next World Cup.

Of course, Leeds were [inever[/i offside!!!

Open your eyes. Both sides were offside and Bentham only blew once.

McShane looks a good player to me and could be even better if the Coach trusted him, alas he doesn't and Burrow, who's distribution is amateurish at times continues to get the gig.

Our pivots are real one dimensional and easy to close down, Huddersfield showed the blueprint, we will see if others follow!!

In a nutshell kev & mags look knackered due to extra defending to compensate for rob but mcd will not rest or rotate and risk a mutiny with world cup coming up .This is not sour grapes at one defeat as I would rather get beat planning for when the magic trio retire unless that is they can play forever .we need to give our young players a chance or risk losing them .

Most of our team stood up very well. We had 3 players who never got off the coach. Unfortunately they are the 3 key positions.

Sinfield had his worst game for years. He doesn't have many, so when he does they do stand out.

Burrow was dreadful. He should have been pinged for 6 or 7 forward passes, was slow to get the ball away and offered little threat with the ball.

McGuire - Has had an angry, ball greedy head on for the last couple of weeks. Last season he was putting people into all sorts of space. The pace left 4 years ago if not longer, and certainly after his knee injury away at Wigan that time. The brain and the footwork are still there, but we saw neither yesterday. Take our halves and 9, and swap them for theirs, we'd have cruised that game yesterday.

I did notice that Hudds were using a massive gap to their first receiver, especially when we were bunched in the middle. Using this tactic is nothing new I know but it worked well for them which almost naturalised the fact they were a man down at times.

We looked void of ideas at times and with Burrow at hooker just didn't work - how many times did he scoot across the line and try and duck through a nonexistent gap?

...and I do not believe that you'll see a softer try than the one Lunt scored - made us look amateurish.

Pretty much my thoughts as well. What frustrates me as well is when Burrow runs from DH hardly anyone ever pushes through to give him the chance to pass the ball meaning he just has to take the tackle, it happend two or 3 times yesterday IIRC.

McGuire has been shot for some time. The criticism he escapes as a half back amazes me. Sort out the hooking position and get Burrow back to 7.

At least Bailey wasn't sent off.

He played well, as did most of the pack, Although Achurch had a pretty poor first stint., I just wish we'd get Ablett back in the 2nd row to give us a bit more cohesion out wide.

I'm pleased for Gotcha. I think he spent the whole week worrying about the certain red card heading Ryans way.

You don't reckon sport's ever as simple as one team executing their game plan better than the other on the day?

I'll bow to your greater 'knowledge' then.

One other observation, it obviously meant a great deal to the Giants as the players brought their kids onto the pitch at the end like ours usually do when they win finals.

It was probably just because of the discounted tickets. Most of the players' kids hadn't been to a game before.

Lose and you're gone. Yesterday was a big game, I hope Huddersfield treat it as the stepping stone it was and don't rest on their laurels after humbling the current SL Champions. Enjoy the win but remember they've won nothing yet although I think it would be great to see them go on and do so now as West Yorkshire's representative and add another new name to the SL Era roll of honour.



If he threw it would it be forward anyway?

Matt23 has nailed Burrow's distribution from dummy half on the head although lots of those flat balls from him are probably OK they look needlessly forward most of the time and some of them unquestionably are, IMO.

I thought MCguire was quite a big threat yesterday. Made loss of half breaks which in another day would have been more productive. Sadly his pace has gone and he can't make the most of the breaks he makes

If Burrow goes back to 7 it will create more problems.

At least he will create something then, unlike the present incumbent

Create what exactly? He runs around himsself for himself, then when he does pass he passes 90% of the time forward.

All we do is move someone around who is not a proper hooker, to not a proper scrum half anymore even.

He is better off doing what he does best, but at a period of the game when it works best, 15 minutes at end of each half. That is an area he excels at.

Plenty half breaks, yes, but Hudds defence was happy to let him run, preferring instead to disrupt any support runners safe in the knowledge that if they prevented the pass then he'd be easily run down. Anderson's not the only coach to have realised this but he deserves credit for ensuring that his defenders never panicked. Link up play's becoming a major headache for us: McGuire is excellent at finding the gap but is now tackled too quickly to fully exploit it; Hardaker has the pace that McGuire lacks but has no eye for the telling pass. The one genuine threat is Watkins but he's too far from the action when out on the wing. And without Ward we're lacking back rowers with any pace either. If/when we have the team fully fit these deficiencies will lessen but a pacey 2nd rower added to the squad wouldn't go amiss (that's assuming there'll be no changes of personnel in our halves for the foreseeable future).

Leeds spent most of their energy levels busting a gut to keep Huddersfield deep in their half. For Brough to ping us back onto our own goal line. He's a hell of a kicker he will do that (got speed and footwork as well to avoid being totalled by the attempted charge downers). So maybe next time let them soak up to the half way line / just into our half and not be as keen to run them down. They'll kick away and its the Status Quo. Just a thought.

Leeds dropped too much ball, too early in sets.

We needed a score after half time but looked lacklusture in creating much.

Macca dragged off after a poor stint never to be seen again. But Achurch wasn't given the same treatment and was brought back on. Clarkson got another pointless stint (10/12 minutes) when the game had gone. As for Kirke....blink and you missed him. Alot of forwards played alot of minutes on Saturday and we didn't the result on this occasion.

Burrow looks as comfortable playing hooker as I do round the in-laws.

burrow at 9 does not work burrow starting the game does not work.Neither does rotating the same players every week kev is a legend but if i was picking England
squad i would have brough over kev at the moment .He needs a rest but will not drop himself imho our squad needs an injection of fresh legs a few new ideas in attack and a bit of youthful enthusiasm . We have these things at our disposal they are called the u19s