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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Ahem !
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McShane's face doesn't fit (say no more). It does seem a cruel twist to give the lad the no.9 shirt [uand[/u a four year contract.....only to then keep him firmly on the sidelines.'"
McShane's face does fit, James Lowes told me last year that they rate him very highly, including McDermott in that.
It's just obviously the case that they want to fit Burrow in somehow, and they want to take a look at Liam Hood (whom in my own opinion is better than McShane). You can't have McShane, Hood, and Burrow in the same squad, that simply would not work.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"I got that part wrong, not in isolation I'd say, plus I only stated it as a view NOT a fact.
I am surprised though since if McD didn't have faith in Hood against Cas, it's hard to imagine that this week's game will offer greater opportunities to blood Hood.
We'll know by about 21.50 on Friday.'"
All banter and joking aside I am as confused as you. Logically McShane should have been selected considering his performance against Manly and in the u-20's last week.
Maybe McDermott was convinced enough by Hood's brief cameo appearance to give him more game time this week. Otherwise it is incontrovertibly illogical.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"McShane's face does fit, James Lowes told me last year that they rate him very highly, including McDermott in that.
It's just obviously the case that they want to fit Burrow in somehow, and they want to take a look at Liam Hood (whom in my own opinion is better than McShane). You can't have McShane, Hood, and Burrow in the same squad, that simply would not work.'"
Why would it not work ?
Is Burrow, McShane and Hood a worse option than Burrow, Diskin and Buderus if not Long, Cunningham and Roby ?
Get all 3 on I say........and Sinfield to LF will allow that of course.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"McShane's face does fit, James Lowes told me last year that they rate him very highly, including McDermott in that.
It's just obviously the case that they want to fit Burrow in somehow, and they want to take a look at Liam Hood (whom in my own opinion is better than McShane). You can't have McShane, Hood, and Burrow in the same squad, that simply would not work.'"
If McGuire or Sinfield were injured we'd probably have them all in the same squad, with Burrow at half and McShane/Hood 9/14. Seems McShane's role is first reserve to McGuire/Sinfield/Burrow.
I just hope, if he is rated highly, that he doesn't turn into another Jimmy Lowes, fed up and pushed out at Headingley and coming back to destroy us.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Why would it not work ?
Is Burrow, McShane and Hood a worse option than Burrow, Diskin and Buderus if not Long, Cunningham and Roby ?
Get all 3 on I say........and Sinfield to LF will allow that of course.'"
Like you say I don't think that would work with sinfield at 6 which is clearly where he is seen playing at the moment.
I think mcshane was unlucky at not keeping his place, he strikes me as a good player and hopefully he and hood have a good future at the club. I just hope if hood is selected then he is given more of a run out than 6 minutes
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Quote ="Gotcha"McShane's face does fit, James Lowes told me last year that they rate him very highly, including McDermott in that.
It's just obviously the case that they want to fit Burrow in somehow, and they want to take a look at Liam Hood (whom in my own opinion is better than McShane). You can't have McShane, Hood, and Burrow in the same squad, that simply would not work.'"
Why would it not work ?
Is Burrow, McShane and Hood a worse option than Burrow, Diskin and Buderus if not Long, Cunningham and Roby ?
Get all 3 on I say........and Sinfield to LF will allow that of course.'"
Buderus & Diskin were both excellent defenders in the middle of the park. Sinfield was defending in the middle also, and was also excellent. That is not the case now. Hood is comepletely untried at this level. McShane's defence has been questionable, and Burrow can only really defend out wide. Having all three in the match squad with Sinny & Danny at half back makes us too lightweight IMO
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| Quote ="The Eagle"Buderus & Diskin were both excellent defenders in the middle of the park. Sinfield was defending in the middle also, and was also excellent. That is not the case now. Hood is comepletely untried at this level. McShane's defence has been questionable, and Burrow can only really defend out wide. Having all three in the match squad with Sinny & Danny at half back makes us too lightweight IMO'"
You could be right. Concern over defence might well be more logical to understand
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Quote ="The Eagle"Buderus & Diskin were both excellent defenders in the middle of the park. Sinfield was defending in the middle also, and was also excellent. That is not the case now. Hood is comepletely untried at this level. McShane's defence has been questionable, and Burrow can only really defend out wide. Having all three in the match squad with Sinny & Danny at half back makes us too lightweight IMO'"
You could be right. Concern over defence might well be more logical to understand'"
However there may also be an angle of too many cooks spoiling the broth. I remember when Diskin came back from injury in 2005, we would play periods of the game with Burrow, Sinfield, McGuire, Duneman and Diskin all on the pitch at the same time. This is not really that different. I remember at the time thoughts being that there were too many chiefs, not enough indians
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| Quote ="The Eagle"However there may also be an angle of too many cooks spoiling the broth. I remember when Diskin came back from injury in 2005, we would play periods of the game with Burrow, Sinfield, McGuire, Duneman and Diskin all on the pitch at the same time. This is not really that different. I remember at the time thoughts being that there were too many chiefs, not enough indians'"
That was 2005 this is 2012 and the way the game is played as changed. Most teams prefer to have a bigger more robust player a loose forward these days.
Sir Kev has said that he struggles physically when he plays as a modern day loose forward.
Therefore current form and in my veiw ability it as to be,
Sir Kev - SO
McGuire - SH
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McShane/Hood - Interchange
With McShane and Hood it's a toss of a coin for me at the moment, however given time I think it will be Hood who will win that battle.
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| Quote ="Fieldheadrhino"Therefore current form and in my veiw ability it as to be,
Sir Kev - SO
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McShane/Hood - Interchange
With McShane and Hood it's a toss of a coin for me at the moment, however given time I think it will be Hood who will win that battle.'"
I agree with this. Obviously an injury to one of Sir Kevin, McGuire or Burrow opens up a slot.
Moving Ablett (either if he's injured or covering centre) probably means moving Clarkson into that role IMO.
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| just seen mcshane training with under 20s at kirkstall when driving past training pitches on way home, punishment for something that has happened? or getting ready for game with 20s as he is out of the first team 19?
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| Quote ="bazzos90"just seen mcshane training with under 20s at kirkstall when driving past training pitches on way home, punishment for something that has happened? or getting ready for game with 20s as he is out of the first team 19?'"
Considering he's not in the 19 for the first team it can hardly be described as punishment to train with the team he'll be playing for.
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| Shirt number should not guarantee anyone a place
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Shirt number should not guarantee anyone a place'"
Nor should reputation.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Shirt number should not guarantee anyone a place'"
No but it should show the player you believe to be first choice in that position, with the long serving numbered players like Kev Mags and Burrow. Of course thats not taking into account a player like Hood can breakout and claim the shirt next time they are handed out. See Clark at Castleford for instance.
For what its worth I think the selection of Hood may be tactical. Maybe Mac sees the same qualities in Hood as what he see's in Burrow at hooker at the minute. That way youve always got a potentail gamebreaker at acting half, while keeping Burrow fresh
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Shirt number should not guarantee anyone a place'"
Unless its 1, 6, 7 or 13 of course
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| Quote ="George Agdgdgwngo®"Nor should reputation.'"
Nor should penis length.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"A valid credit card and 10% non-refundable deposit is required to guarantee a place.'"
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| Quote ="G1"Nor should penis length.'"
Exactly. Girth is far more important
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Exactly. Girth is far more important
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It is if you're this guy:
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Isn't that the guy who wore the No.17 shirt for Manly the other week ?
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Isn't that the guy who wore the No.17 shirt for Manly the other week ?'"
His felling by Ryan Bailey should come with a Benny Hill backing track.
Anyroad, don't know what the guy in the middle is looking so smug about, with that melted plastic head he's got.
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| Seriously though, how come the guy on the left has his a**e at the front? What's that all about?
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Seriously though, how come the guy on the left has his a**e at the front? What's that all about?'"
God knows, but his furry shoulders are a nice touch.
Her on the right, god, I'd leave her in pieces.
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