Am I wrong to presume in this case he is referring to the Leeds fans travelling where numbers (in his view) have fallen away?

And this year they brought more than any other year before them!

On a slightly different angle, for some reason, Leeds isn't a trip they want to make in France! Wigan, Bradford and Saints they like, along with (obviously) The Magic Weekend, but not Leeds, wonder why that is!

They hate Rhinos? At least that's what they were saying in Edinburgh

Yes I think you are right actually - but the same applies in a way.

A lot of this depends on what other teams attendences have been like this year. If they are generally down you can look at wider factors (e.g. credit crunch) but if Leeds are down and other teams arn't we need to look 'in house'.

Also with so few games to go off there are probably some freak factors in there also. Like the Celtic game where there had been heavy snow, probably gonna put some people off.

They have a chance against those inferior sides, they don't against us?

I heard it was mascot related.

So G1 was right, I think we should get those 5 people on the phone and ask them to explain themselves

That all depends if the figures are accurate and as they include an attendance from Belle Vue the computer says NO.

Salford and Harlequins didn't have a chance at Headingley either

HTH

Think an arguement bout Leeds attendances is total nonsense. First time I ever watched Leeds we were trounced by Warrington and the entire ground calling for peter fox's head. Fast forward to the CC cup win in 99 and we were all still there. Don't think our Yorkshire cup win v cas would have captivated everyone that long. Leeds are and always will be a well supported team, if we're mugs so be it!

The Warrington game you are referring to (lost 16-54) was on the 16th November 1986 and 6,993 turned up. The following home game was against Hull KR and 5,853 were there to see Leeds trounce the Robins 42-7, ten days later Peter Fox was history at Headingley but that's beside the point.

You wouldn't be concerned to see Leeds return to those sort of attendances?

I bet Paul Caddick and Gary Hetherington would be.

Fair enough, when your 10 it seems like a lot more. All I'm saying is we've been let down a hell of a lot more in years gone by than we are now.

No offence intended. You only have to witness the slide in attendances over at our near neighbours to realise that a supporter base cannot be fed BS indefinately.

Agree totally. I just like that I see same people from 20 odd yrs ago sticking with leeds thru and thru. Suckers for punishment!

true fans, not glory hunters

Think more than half our fan base have seen us win 2 grand finals and none of the before. Bless. Hope they don't have to either.

yeh i did mean us travelling away mind you super league is set up in a way that makes league games worthless really and fans know this thats why you'll never get the house full signs up anymore, as if you win the whole thing by fnishing top i think we'd see some very difference results in games.

And leeds would have two extra forwards & a centre.

If the league continues it's progress in establishing parity, we're only going to win an average of half our games. Is that going to see attendances crashing?

I'm suprised no one has pointed out one obvious fact, the Southstander holds 2000 less people this year and I do know of about 10/15 who have stopped coming because of the overcrowding and displacement this has caused.

You could say that more would come as games are more likely to be close and entertaining, thats a bigger attraction for many than always winning

An interesting point young sir, depends on wether you prefer a genuine competitive competition where the so called bottom teams can triumph on a more regular basis against the "top" teams or to the dark old days of one dominant team steam rolliing all before it .

Genuine competition for me.

Dont get me wrong, ive been as gutted as everyone else at losing games that we are "expected" to win, but if that is the price for a more competitive league than so be it.

Unfortunatly supporters weened on constant success will no doubt fall by the wayside as the competition increases, in their eyes seeing their team becoming worse when actually the teams behind are catching up with the "top" teams , yet those supporters who are a bit more long in the tooth/wiser will still be stood on the terraces long after the "glory" supporters have gone.

I don't think the chances of getting beaten are a problem for supporters, otherwise why would our sellouts over recent years have mostly been against the teams most likely to beat us. Both before and after we became a sucessful side.

Real supporters, no i agree, glory seeking band-waggoners? most certainly.