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| The best young player to emerge at Leeds since Watkins - a very special player
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| I can see Walker winning Super Leagues young player of the year award. Mik Oledski could also be a contender, two positives to come out of the 2018 season.
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| Yes walker is fantastic to watch even in a team that has been on the back foot most of the season. Could never understand McDermott even thinking Goulding was in the same bracket
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| Quote ="jensenFF"Yes walker is fantastic to watch even in a team that has been on the back foot most of the season. Could never understand McDermott even thinking Goulding was in the same bracket'"
McDermott didn’t, it was just certain fans.
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| Quote ="jensenFF"Yes walker is fantastic to watch even in a team that has been on the back foot most of the season. Could never understand McDermott even thinking Goulding was in the same bracket'"
No one thinks Goulding is in the same bracket as Walker, that's because we don't have a Goulding playing for us.
Once again the Walker fan boys are out as he looks half decent against canon fodder, easy looking good against 12 man Leigh and perhaps the worse super league side since london broncos in 2014. Can't do it against any half decent side, all hype nothing more, be playing at fev or Bradford with lilley in 2 years time.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"No one thinks Goulding is in the same bracket as Walker, that's because we don't have a Goulding playing for us.
Once again the Walker fan boys are out as he looks half decent against canon fodder, easy looking good against 12 man Leigh and perhaps the worse super league side since london broncos in 2014. Can't do it against any half decent side, all hype nothing more, be playing at fev or Bradford with lilley in 2 years time.'"
Just out of interest did you see,attend or WATCH any of his games last year namely the GF but the others he played in?
He's hit some inconsistency this year but no worse than the team nor Golding.
The kid will be a great FB for us & we can re-visit this in your 2yrs prediction.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Just out of interest did you see,attend or WATCH any of his games last year namely the GF but the others he played in?
He's hit some inconsistency this year but no worse than the team nor Golding.
The kid will be a great FB for us & we can re-visit this in your 2yrs prediction.'"
pretty much saw all his games last season and this, i hope you are right and i am right, that would be the best scenario, believe me i would not take pleasure in being a "told you so" much rather he did become a world beater, i just dont see it. But if i am right and he as been over hyped, the mob will soon turn on him. unfortunately people were saying the same things about Sutcliffe 3-4 years ago and others in the past.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"pretty much saw all his games last season and this, i hope you are right and i am right, that would be the best scenario, believe me i would not take pleasure in being a "told you so" much rather he did become a world beater, i just dont see it. But if i am right and he as been over hyped, the mob will soon turn on him. unfortunately people were saying the same things about Sutcliffe 3-4 years ago and others in the past.'"
Why does it have to be world beater or nothing? There isn't even people saying that, only you making that assumption. Why can't we just have a damn good player, who is the best at the club in his position, and as the potential to improve further? What is the issue with that?
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"No one thinks Goulding is in the same bracket as Walker, that's because we don't have a Goulding playing for us.
Once again the Walker fan boys are out as he looks half decent against canon fodder, easy looking good against 12 man Leigh and perhaps the worse super league side since london broncos in 2014. Can't do it against any half decent side, all hype nothing more, be playing at fev or Bradford with lilley in 2 years time.'"
Golding fan boy.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Why does it have to be world beater or nothing? There isn't even people saying that, only you making that assumption. Why can't we just have a damn good player, who is the best at the club in his position, and as the potential to improve further? What is the issue with that?'"
but thats what people are making him out to be, thats what this post started out as, people talking about the hype, like i said hope i am wrong, although my comments where slightly tongue in cheek above out playing for Fev, but he is not the golden boy some are making out.
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| Quote ="rugbyleague88"Golding fan boy.'"
not really, but i don't like how people attack him without justification, it seems some players cant do wrong and others cant do right, also concerned about some racial abuse that was heard at Cas against Golding and Walters. just because you like one player over another there is no need to attack the player you don't like all the time.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"but thats what people are making him out to be, thats what this post started out as, people talking about the hype, like i said hope i am wrong, although my comments where slightly tongue in cheek above out playing for Fev, but he is not the golden boy some are making out.'"
He's about as golden as we had when McGuire, Chev Walker, Watkins, came through the system. Like them, it is how he develops from here on in. The comments around those previous players were the same. Were you poo pooing everyone then for making positive comments on a young player?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"He's about as golden as we had when McGuire, Chev Walker, Watkins, came through the system. Like them, it is how he develops from here on in. The comments around those previous players were the same. Were you poo pooing everyone then for making positive comments on a young player?'"
All those 3 were streets ahead of Walker, sorry buts its true, chev Walker had already played for England at just 18. this is not about bagging walker and some people are trying to make out it is.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"All those 3 were streets ahead of Walker, sorry buts its true, chev Walker had already played for England at just 18. this is not about bagging walker and some people are trying to make out it is.'"
You are bagging him, and you do it simply because you don't like others hyping him. Whether you intend to do that or not, you do it.
They were not streets ahead of him at all in terms of quality to their peers, that is the issue. For his age and his role, Walker is up there in this country as one of the best, at this stage. Just like the three players I mentioned earlier were. The point which I think you might be alluding to his the quality in individual skill was better with those three. That might well be the case, but in terms of quality of the competition and how they rate to that, then Walker is at that sort of level.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"You are bagging him, and you do it simply because you don't like others hyping him. Whether you intend to do that or not, you do it.
They were not streets ahead of him at all in terms of quality to their peers, that is the issue. For his age and his role, Walker is up there in this country as one of the best, at this stage. Just like the three players I mentioned earlier were. The point which I think you might be alluding to his the quality in individual skill was better with those three. That might well be the case, but in terms of quality of the competition and how they rate to that, then Walker is at that sort of level.'"
Well just after disagree then won't we and time will tell.
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| The last decent full-back Leeds developed (Hardaker aside) was Richie Mathers. From what I've seen Walker is better than Mathers at the equivalent age; as good defensively while possessing a bit more pace and a more elusive running style.
We'll see how he develops - nothing is guaranteed (see Lee Smith!). But it's depressing that there are Leeds fans who are on the verge of willing him to fail to prove a point on an internet message board.
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| Makes me laugh the comments on Chev being way above Jack Walker at similar age as I used to drive Chev from training and I once had him literally in tears in my car due to abuse fans was giving him.
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| Will we see a return to the old days when Leeds let promising players leave who then teach them a lesson on the field, Lowes, Powell, Medley etc...
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Will we see a return to the old days when Leeds let promising players leave who then teach them a lesson on the field, Lowes, Powell, Medley etc...'"
When you create as many Super League and Championship players as the Leeds Academy does it’s impossible to keep them all
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Will we see a return to the old days when Leeds let promising players leave who then teach them a lesson on the field, Lowes, Powell, Medley etc...'"
That'll depend on the quality of the ones that stay. At present, you'd have to say the prospects of any half decent player leaving for any of half a dozen clubs would improve. That said, the overall quality of the comp is low enough to suggest that it wouldn't take too many good signings - and a little bit of luck - for us to be right back at the top.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Makes me laugh the comments on Chev being way above Jack Walker at similar age as I used to drive Chev from training and I once had him literally in tears in my car due to abuse fans was giving him.'"
Once got hold of a fan at Huddersfield after he started repeatedly calling Chev a black b****** this was 2002-2003. Put him right, cant do with racially abusing any player, never mind your own team.
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| I’d hope RL fans would challenge someone racially abusing a player whether he was on our team or not.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Once again the Walker fan boys are out as he looks half decent against canon fodder, easy looking good against 12 man Leigh and perhaps the worse super league side since london broncos in 2014. Can't do it against any half decent side, all hype nothing more, be playing at fev or Bradford with lilley in 2 years time.'"
What a muppet.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"I’d hope RL fans would challenge someone racially abusing a player whether he was on our team or not.'"
i would be unfortunately society is not changing for the better, and we may see more of this type of thing again. look at Ozil the German footballer (Turkish immigrant)
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