Delaney always looks knackered

We [uDO[/u have a scrum half (who funnily enough wears the number 7 shirt) with electric pace going forward



Still think Moon is potentially the best SO at the club.....

Moon was tried at Brisbane in the halves and found to be seriously wanting

100% wrong Sal and not for the first time. At least with blinkers on I can see straight..... it must be hard relying on your guide dog to read for you.



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I have defended McGuire this season as IMO with the odd exception he has played well. Shame Rover isn't up to scratch!

That was then....and it was the NRL .....SL (especially these days) will not prove to be quite so much a challenge I suspect

Credit to Wigan for a fast aggressive defense. With help from the ref they slowed down our PTBs and without three of our best attackers it was always going to be a struggle. Sinfield had one of those off days as did Hardaker and Watkins has lost some zip.

I think most of the players put in real effort especially just after half time when we looked like getting back in the game until errors gave away possession and momentum. I thought there were the usual big efforts from JP, JJB and Aiton and Achurch did ok too.

If we are to progress in the play offs we do need Burrow and McGuire back and on song

T.he team would have to attack to the right there would be no room to the left

Good. Maybe Watkins might get some quality ball in space

He would need to be a lot better than tonight - not his finest hour

Have to agree (ball retention especially)....another one that seems to be going backwards under McDermott's tenure.

from watching it on the telly, most of Leeds' pack looked lacklustre and despite having little in attack (in part due to missing personnel), it could be the forwards that cause most worries for the rest of the season.

I think Watkins has been carrying a hip injury for a while. They looked knackered tonight, not surprising though. Really worry for Stevie Ward - bumped off a few times and doesn't impact in attack. I'm hoping an injury free preseason will help

We were actually quite good when we did not have the ball we even scored our try near enough without it . When we had the ball

When we had the ball it was never for long. Some horrendous ball control. If we'd held it better in the second half, I thought we stood a chance.

On a positive, Keinhorst played pretty well. Obviously not going to displace Moon or Watkins but better than our other stand- in options this year, and better than I remember him being before he went to Wakey.

Must have watched a different game to me , Keinhorst , Achurch , Ward and Briscoe offer nothing and are all accidents waiting to happen

Burrow wouldn't have made a difference against that defence. He would have been buried every time.

Keinhorst had a good game, so again unsure what change would have improved us enough.

We missed out at half back though. Sutcliffe did absolutely nothing, leaving only one half back in Sinfield, and too much pressure couldn't do it himself, with indecision and really poor kicking.

Someone needs to get a hold of Watkins. Such a class player, and just doesn't do enough to warrant that acclaim. Far too much standing still from him, if he is moving when receiving then you get the class.

Must watch the game again as two people have praised the German , at the game last night and he seemed ordinary to say the least (not on his own though)

The team as a whole just didn't get going their defensive line speed put us on the back foot from ko what was annoying was the 5th tackle options we knew they were on top so why not kick on the 3rd or 4th and make them come from there end more often?
Too many errors and passing to someone standing still got us nowhere but at the same time given the CC and last weeks efforts id rather we "hit a wall" now rather than in the play offs which will be tougher.

With the exception of Ward I thought all the players you've listed were decent last night, Achurch was the only forward who looked dangerous when carrying the ball. Briscoe tried really hard was OK given his lack of ball, and although I still don't think Keinhorst has a long term future at Leeds, he did about as much as you could expect from him last night.

Possibly the greatest talent in SL, but it doesn't seem to matter enough to him. Getting stuffed at Wigan & laughing with a couple of minutes to go. I wanted to jump down the telly.

He was laughing because him and burgess had a good foot race and he caught him. Nothing wrong with that.

I think Watkins form pretty much mirrors that of the whole team in the league.

Looked great for the first 10 games or so and has then fallen away badly to distinctly average for the most part with the odd flash of inspiration

Watkins has been poor for pretty much most of the season with the exception of the first half a dozen or so games.
His passing to the wing is abysmal and he is struggling to beat his opposite centre.
Keinhorst for me did ok and is a decent back up.
Half backs once again rubbish and I am still waiting for Sutcliffe to do something special.
Forwards plodded their way through the game with only Singleton doing anything along with Aiton.
Not sure why Robbie Ward was left out.
Maybe he got cramp from sitting on the bench too long last week.
Possibly leave out JP next week and bring in Mulhern or the ever improving Kirke

Think Watkins could have Kevin Iro/ paul newlove syndrome all the ability but does not seem to want it often enough. Iro did become much more consistent at Leeds for the last couple if seasons and saints as he aged