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| Quote ="RonnieGinger"Improvement again. Lisone is a grade A t!t though. His reaction of being put on report and then acting like he did at that Try.'"
Seems to have taken the Throne off Tetavano..
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| Defensively massively improved. Attack still miles off. Failing to kick on three consecutive sets, Frawley losing us possession on the first play etc.
I sense Arthur has mainly been focusing on defence. I suspect he may look at our attack a bit more to sharpen us up. We look very low on confidence at the moment and thus, a good win last night should hopefully boost us a little. A win next week could hopefully get us playing confidently again.
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| Quote ="Trebor1"Seems to have taken the Throne off Tetavano..'"
AS I saw it he celebrated the try, much as other players do whooping a try or an opposition error. The three players that went at him were more at fault for causing the incident.
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| Didn't get to see the game last night and have just watched it.
Granted, it's an easier watch when you know the result.
But I was impressed.
Obviously Arthur is focusing on the defence.
Line speed and aggression make a massive difference. Who knew?.....
Still very clunky in attack and too many individual mistakes, but I'm sure he'll be on to that next.
This squad of players is not good enough for top 3, but could squeeze into the play offs based on what I've seen so far.
Arthur clearly knows what he's doing.
We should offer him 2 years now.
If he's got the Perth NRL team in his sights for 2027, give him the gig for the next 2 years and we all know where we stand.
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| Quote ="Neruda"Why would Lisone get a ban? Nothing wrong with initial contact. '"
It is no different to the swinging arm going off the arm or shoulder into the head of the defender. It might be accidental but on your logic anyone could do that, break someone's jaw, but claim the initial contact was legal.
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| Quote ="tigertot"It is no different to the swinging arm going off the arm or shoulder into the head of the defender. It might be accidental but on your logic anyone could do that, break someone's jaw, but claim the initial contact was legal.'"
Arms going off the the ball or arm of the ball carrier don't result in a red card or a 4 game ban.
Claiming he went in leading with elbow is factually wrong, and we've seen the same reviewed by MRP this season and results in no ban.
Not sure what youre arguing about.
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| Quote ="Neruda"Arms going off the the ball or arm of the ball carrier don't result in a red card or a 4 game ban.
Claiming he went in leading with elbow is factually wrong, and we've seen the same reviewed by MRP this season and results in no ban.
Not sure what youre arguing about.'"
The first contact is with the forearm/elbow. I am not sure how you can dispute it. It is then Lisone's responsibility to control where it goes & for the after-effects of it. There was no malicious intent IMO but it will be a ban. An elbow can cause far more damage than an arm. I can't believe you do not understand the rules.
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| Quote ="tigertot"The first contact is with the forearm/elbow. I am not sure how you can dispute it. It is then Lisone's responsibility to control where it goes & for the after-effects of it. There was no malicious intent IMO but it will be a ban. An elbow can cause far more damage than an arm. I can't believe you do not understand the rules.'"
I can dispute it by using my eyes, and seeing Lisone has his arm tucked against his body going into the tackle, arm is then raised as defender falls backwards off the tackle
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| Funny game this one. Takeways for me are that you can definitely see some positive influence from Arthur as expected, but the squad just looks exposed at this point.
Thought Huddersfield were dire in patches.
Not at all impressed with our first half, thought we dished up some garbage but we look better because our defensive line is quicker and more aggressive.
We just look small and slow. Bentley was great with his energy when he came on, and I think he works best in that role as a wasp when the opposition is tired. But when he, O'Connor and Donaldson are on the field together in the pack, it's vaguely depressing. Was also depressing to see Mom get caught on his clean break, it's the first time I think I've seen him stretch his legs and he wasn't quick enough. Jack Smith would have finished that.
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| Quote ="tigertot"The first contact is with the forearm/elbow. I am not sure how you can dispute it. It is then Lisone's responsibility to control where it goes & for the after-effects of it. There was no malicious intent IMO but it will be a ban. An elbow can cause far more damage than an arm. I can't believe you do not understand the rules.'"
Just prior o the contact Lisone had transitioned the ball from his left hand into his right hand with hi elbow tucked into his body. The natural reaction of any player would be to bring your elbow away from your body as you are running, this "promoted" hi elbow into the tackle.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Funny game this one. Takeways for me are that you can definitely see some positive influence from Arthur as expected, but the squad just looks exposed at this point.
Thought Huddersfield were dire in patches.
Not at all impressed with our first half, thought we dished up some garbage but we look better because our defensive line is quicker and more aggressive.
We just look small and slow. Bentley was great with his energy when he came on, and I think he works best in that role as a wasp when the opposition is tired. But when he, O'Connor and Donaldson are on the field together in the pack, it's vaguely depressing. Was also depressing to see Mom get caught on his clean break, it's the first time I think I've seen him stretch his legs and he wasn't quick enough. Jack Smith would have finished that.'"
Yeah we do. we lack Xfactor pace in the back line (Miller has a bit as does Handley but that's it). The pack is very small, there's very little tackle busting ability Lisone apart.
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"
Watch the first half again it really was dreadful and against nearly any other team we would be miles behind .
The Ref was truly shocking'"
I was prepared to pay for a charter flight out of my own pocket after 30mins for all our recent Aussie signings. I would have had the whole lot of ‘em gone. Three of them improved fortunately, but having seen Momorovski running down a touch line that had apparently been replaced with a treadmill I’d have saved a seat for him. It’s always nice to beat our jealous little neighbours down the road, but my heart bleeds for that poor bugger Ken Davy whenever the camera pans onto him. We may just be prolonging the agony and raising false hope, but at least we can be thankful we will never be Huddersfield.
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| I felt similar on that one. Frawls has been playing well last 2 games, relatively. If we can get him kicking in good ball he's effective, he's just rubbish at distance.
I'm just praying that behind the scenes BA is getting to like the players and the club, to the point where he wants to give us next year to help us.
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| Quote ="leeds owl"I was prepared to pay for a charter flight out of my own pocket after 30mins for all our recent Aussie signings. I would have had the whole lot of ‘em gone. Three of them improved fortunately, but having seen Momorovski running down a touch line that had apparently been replaced with a treadmill I’d have saved a seat for him. It’s always nice to beat our jealous little neighbours down the road, but my heart bleeds for that poor bugger Ken Davy whenever the camera pans onto him. We may just be prolonging the agony and raising false hope, but at least we can be thankful we will never be Huddersfield.'"
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"I felt similar on that one. Frawls has been playing well last 2 games, relatively. If we can get him kicking in good ball he's effective, he's just rubbish at distance.
I'm just praying that behind the scenes BA is getting to like the players and the club, to the point where he wants to give us next year to help us.'"
The standard of Rugby (first half last night especially ) the shocking reffing and the way he was shaking his head makes me think he will be gone end of the season
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"The standard of Rugby (first half last night especially ) the shocking reffing and the way he was shaking his head makes me think he will be gone end of the season'"
He has shaken his head lots so far, as have we all!
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| Lisone cleared of any charges.
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| Didn't see that coming. Hats off to those that did - tad and co.
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| Quote ="christopher"Lisone cleared of any charges.'"
Wish i could get a gif of Jon Wilkin crying, disgusted at how he wanted to get Lisone sent off based on super slow mo video and little evidence in real time, the incident was never has blatant cut and dry has he made out.
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| Quote ="christopher"Lisone cleared of any charges.'"
Tigertot and Wilkin crying in their chips
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Wish i could get a gif of Jon Wilkin crying, disgusted at how he wanted to get Lisone sent off based on super slow mo video and little evidence in real time, the incident was never has blatant cut and dry has he made out.'"
it wasn't just Wilkin. The commentary team of Wilson & Amor effectively tried to condem him before the try had been converted.
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| said at the time no case to answer
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| Amor and Wilkin love the sensationalism.
Like I said if Lisone`s forearm hit Russells head at that pace Russell would still be unconscious now.
However I`m sure if Russell play acted like others have done Lisone would have been sent off and the try disallowed.
I reckon the reason he didn`t play dead was that he knew he`d been hit fairly in the chest at the time.
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| Quote ="Neruda"Tigertot and Wilkin crying in their chips'"
I'm not sure why I should be upset. I said it was accidental & not malicious, but thought it was a red under the current rules. It was hardly Mick Cassidy on Adrian Morley.
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| Quote ="tigertot"I'm not sure why I should be upset. I said it was accidental & not malicious, but thought it was a red under the current rules. It was hardly Mick Cassidy on Adrian Morley.'"
Yeah agree. The defender has got his head in a vulnerable position, Lisone is an aggressive big man and he's raised the elbow on him - probably a bin or red under current rules but otherwise file under "racing incident".
I'm just glad the judiciary has come to its senses after the first couple of months of madness.
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