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| 1st half was just a two teams who didn't play conditions well and slugged away at each other.
2nd half we looked very goof granted Cas are a poor team but you can only beat what's in front of you Miller, Momirovski & Croft all turned their skills on in 2nd half and it was great to watch. Lisone was great off the bench he did exactly what you'd expect a impact prop off the subs to do. A Much needed win after a couple of poor results. Hopefully as we move into warmer weather we showcase more quality performances.
On a side note I'm told Tom Holroyd may have fallen out with Rohan Smith and he could be looking for a way out of the club only time will tell.
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| Quote ="Jrrhino"1st half was just a two teams who didn't play conditions well and slugged away at each other.
2nd half we looked very goof granted Cas are a poor team but you can only beat what's in front of you Miller, Momirovski & Croft all turned their skils on in 2nd half and it was great to watch. Much needed win after a couple of poor results. Hopefully as we move into warmer weather we showcase more quality performances.
On a side note I'm told Tom Holroyd may have fallen out with Rohan Smith and he could be looking for a way out of the club only time will tell.'"
His absence was really odd on a heavy pitch today - I suspected he’d been dropped for the daft penalty he conceded against Saints.
I think we need to start looking at games as a whole: we were compressed but not broken in the first half. I thought Cas had blown themselves out trying to Cup Final Leeds again; when we increased the pace second half they struggled to match us.
Lisone changed that game 100%. Makes you wonder what it could do for us having another like him in the middle.
Thought most performances were “solid” but Lisone, Miller, McDonnell, Croft and Handley stood out most.
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| Quote ="Jrrhino"1st half was just a two teams who didn't play conditions well and slugged away at each other.
2nd half we looked very goof granted Cas are a poor team but you can only beat what's in front of you Miller, Momirovski & Croft all turned their skils on in 2nd half and it was great to watch. Much needed win after a couple of poor results. Hopefully as we move into warmer weather we showcase more quality performances.
On a side note I'm told Tom Holroyd may have fallen out with Rohan Smith and he could be looking for a way out of the club only time will tell.'"
Agree about Croft, he is class act on the front foot and best games by Miller and Momorovski.
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You are wrong about Holroyd , there have been too many falling out with Smith and wanting out. I can’t believe many if any forwards enjoy playing after you Claude , Rohan ball.
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| Holroyd picked up a badly bruised elbow during the Saints game, that's why he didn't play.
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| As soon as I saw the conditions I thought the game would be like it was in the first half. The way we defend is incredibly frustrating and frankly, mystifying at times, but we aren't conceding my line breaks, nevermind trys, so it is effective to some degree, but I'm pretty sure if we give Wire anywhere near that amount of sustained pressure and territory like we did in that first half, we'll be lucky to be in the game by HT.
Still, we won the game comfortably despite only having 15 men for the 2nd half in a fixture we struggle in historically, so pretty content overall.
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| Anyone know what’s going Gannon injury wise?
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| Don't think we learned anything new from that game. It followed a familiar theme in that we just try and stay in games in the first half. Cas probably played better than they have done recently first half but looked like Leeds when they got in our 25 no structure and clue how to break us down. 2nd half they were gassed and truly awful and we should have put more points on them. Positives all the players generally highlighted. Millar was excellent and thought he was very good defensively as well on a horrible night I think Frawley more culpable for the Cas try. Next week will give us a clearer picture of how and if we are progressing.
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| Quote ="Chesterrhino"Anyone know what’s going Gannon injury wise?'"
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| It amazes me how anyone can be bothered to buy smoke bombs/flares (I am a miserable /tight basxxxd,)
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| Looking at the highlights; it’s ok saying how bad Cas are but they always raise their game for us.
Couple of our tries were well-worked against a tiring defence. Couple more scrappy jobs - the type of tries we have conceded this year.
Like others have said, we’ll have to put in a better first half to beat Wire.
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| Quote ="Sir Gregory ParsloeP"It amazes me how anyone can be bothered to buy smoke bombs/flares (I am a miserable /tight basxxxd,)
Disappointing we had some numpty throw one on the pitch after a try and throw a plastic beer glass on after another , both missed players but we don’t need that nonsense.'"
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| let's just play all game like we did in the second half. win or lose its a damned sight more effective than that rubbish served uo in the first half
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| Thought McDonnell was excellent, he seems to look bigger every week and certainly put a lot of good size on since last year
Impressive stint from lisone
Im pretty open in that i dont rate Bentley, but he was outstanding in the first half
Hopefully Mom finds some confidence, but despite the trys, im not impressed so far, he looks so weak and passive, hopefully more to come, to play so many games against the monster outside backs in NRL, he must have some physicality about him
Miller and Croft, class again
Overall, happy enough with the win, couple of nice scores and the second half defence had the best intent iv seen for ages, we actually front loaded energy, got off the line and pinned them in there own half, only downside is that its most likely too obvious for Rohan, he'l put a stop to that by next week im sure.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"let's just play all game like we did in the second half. win or lose its a damned sight more effective than that rubbish served uo in the first half'"
Taken as a whole though we seem to put in strong second halves because we are tiring out the opposition in the first.
I dunno i’ll take the win away to Cas. The conditions have been rubbish all year so far too. I wasn’t delighted with most of that first half either but there are aspects of how we play which are deliberate.
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"Thought McDonnell was excellent, he seems to look bigger every week and certainly put a lot of good size on since last year
Impressive stint from lisone
Im pretty open in that i dont rate Bentley, but he was outstanding in the first half
Hopefully Mom finds some confidence, but despite the trys, im not impressed so far, he looks so weak and passive, hopefully more to come, to play so many games against the monster outside backs in NRL, he must have some physicality about him
Miller and Croft, class again
Overall, happy enough with the win, couple of nice scores and the second half defence had the best intent iv seen for ages, we actually front loaded energy, got off the line and pinned them in there own half, only downside is that its most likely too obvious for Rohan, he'l put a stop to that by next week im sure.'"
Bentley was, and is often very good defensively, certainly in terms of work rate. My main issue is that he seems to be so ineffective with the ball. I know you need a balance but on the face of it both McDonnell and Martin offer more while not losing much defensively.
I actually thought Mom looked better when he switched sides too.
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| Awful first half, although have to give the side some credit for the defensive display. Second half saw a glimmer of hope from the backs, Croft making breaks and lo and behold we had support runners. Still it’s a win and an away win at that. Have some sympathy for our recent Australian imports, it’s obviously a difficult transition period. But to train and play every week in what seems constant rain must be challenging. Still have concerns about our forwards. Certainly they wil have to improve to have any chance of success against Warrington.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Taken as a whole though we seem to put in strong second halves because we are tiring out the opposition in the first.
I dunno i’ll take the win away to Cas. The conditions have been rubbish all year so far too. I wasn’t delighted with most of that first half either but there are aspects of how we play which are deliberate.'"
it worked because cas were dreadful. can you see it working against wire, wigan etc. it certainly didn't work against saints
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| The defence is crazy, concede tons of metres but very few line breaks. Tries against have mainly come from speculative kicks and individual howlers. Then again they wouldn't be conceded if we were 30 yards up the pitch.
In attack our backs appear to do far more work than most teams hitting the ball up. Score some cracking tries though.
Fusitua must be close to a return soon, hopefully for a sustained period.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"it worked because cas were dreadful. can you see it working against wire, wigan etc. it certainly didn't work against saints'"
It worked against Leigh, Salford, Catalans though didn't it? We weren't a million miles off Saints either, particularly in that first game - we actually looked very good in the first half . When our line speed was good...!
Warrington is a really interesting game because this is a side who might be similar to us in quality this year. I just hope it's dry and not freezing so we can see more of what we can do.
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| Quote ="Broadacres"The defence is crazy, concede tons of metres but very few line breaks. Tries against have mainly come from speculative kicks and individual howlers. Then again they wouldn't be conceded if we were 30 yards up the pitch.
In attack our backs appear to do far more work than most teams hitting the ball up. Score some cracking tries though.
Fusitua must be close to a return soon, hopefully for a sustained period.'"
I was trying to watch closely last night and I'd just say we are trying to defend efficiently. The penalty against Bentley I thought was really harsh for once - the Cas player was moving forward off the mark constantly as Bentley was trying to get into marker position. Some other calls went our way though.
Listening to the presser etc. I'd say Leeds are very happy with that result. It's another one we did lose last year: if we keep on converting fixtures from Ls to Ws we'll be in the mix come season end.
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| Quote ="Loiner at large"Don't think we learned anything new from that game. It followed a familiar theme in that we just try and stay in games in the first half. Cas probably played better than they have done recently first half but looked like Leeds when they got in our 25 no structure and clue how to break us down. 2nd half they were gassed and truly awful and we should have put more points on them. Positives all the players generally highlighted. Millar was excellent and thought he was very good defensively as well on a horrible night I think Frawley more culpable for the Cas try. Next week will give us a clearer picture of how and if we are progressing.'"
Agree with all the above. A win as expected, but can we just ignore that first half ? It’s true the defending in our own third was good, but the way Cas just rolled us down field was shocking. If ever there was a masterclass in how to look clueless near the try line, it came from both teams in that first half. Thought Miller was fantastic both in defence and attack, Handley did a lot of tough carries in the 1st half, and then Croft and McDonell made a big impact in the 2nd as did Lisone with a powerful stint. Let’s see if he turns up next week. Also, before we forget it’s an 80 minute game, Croft was none too clever in the first half. I’ve noticed his long passing game isn’t the strongest, and some of his passes have a big Red Cross on them for his team mates. He’s great to watch when he fires though. Can’t say I didn’t enjoy beating the inbreds, but I struggled to look forward to a game against such poor opposition. Like Loiner at large said, we learnt nothing from that game apart from Cas will be lucky to be playing in Superleague next season.
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| Thought Bentley was very good in his stint last night - I still wouldn't have him in the starting 13 but he was ferocious.
For Wire, assuming Holroyd returns, we should be pretty close to my first choice 17 other than Fus and possibly Gannon. Not sure how fit a few are but it should be a good contest and another yardstick for us.
You would imagine London will finish below Cas but they are clearly going to have a tough season.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Thought Bentley was very good in his stint last night - I still wouldn't have him in the starting 13 but he was ferocious.
For Wire, assuming Holroyd returns, we should be pretty close to my first choice 17 other than Fus and possibly Gannon. Not sure how fit a few are but it should be a good contest and another yardstick for us.
You would imagine London will finish below Cas but they are clearly going to have a tough season.'"
So your first choice does not have Bentley and Newman in then
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Thought Bentley was very good in his stint last night - I still wouldn't have him in the starting 13 but he was ferocious.
For Wire, assuming Holroyd returns, we should be pretty close to my first choice 17 other than Fus and possibly Gannon. Not sure how fit a few are but it should be a good contest and another yardstick for us.
You would imagine London will finish below Cas but they are clearly going to have a tough season.'"
29 tackles and only played 40 minutes. If we going to continue to play the way we are he definitely needs to play the first half every week!
Will be missing next week so others need to step up defensively.
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"So your first choice does not have Bentley and Newman in then'"
It wouldn't have Bentley and of course it would have Newman, who I'm expecting will get stitched up and be able to play next week. He didn't fail his HIA.
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