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| Quote ="christopher"I thought we looked a bit clunky for large parts of that game, so I’m pleased they won pretty comfortably in the end, I thought we had quite a few more gears left in us, you can say what you like about Agar and the Players but the turnaround from last year to this should be applauded.
Oh and Handley is turning into a very good player indeed.'" Agreed.
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| Good win. Nice to see some of the scapegoats doing well. (Handley, L Sutcliffe, Donaldson.
Tough choice for Wembley but for me Walker has to get the nod. Wonder if we could find a bench spot for Myler as can cover few positions. Might be bit light bench with Dwyer too though.....
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| After a poor 20 minutes i thought we responded strongly.
The pack got into the grind & Gale got his kicking game spot on.
Handley is a quality winger imo he may have a poor game here & there but he is improving his consistency & his reading of the gane gets better & better.
Donaldson played well & his consistency & work rate are proving valuable much better than ive given him credit for previously.
L.Sutcliffe has done a good job at Centre but i still think if he wants out then he shouldnt play simple as that.
I also think Mikolaj has been quality & is living up to his potential.
A good win now get them isolated ready for Wembley.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Super League is beginning to look easier for Tommy now. Im sure the game has slowed down for him and hes getting used to the physical side of things. Thought he did a nice job again 2nite and made a good impact off the bench. Really pleased with the progress hes making. Suspect he might cop a ban though rightly or wrongly.'"
If he doesn’t get banned would you pick him for the final?
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| Quote ="christopher"I thought we looked a bit clunky for large parts of that game, so I’m pleased they won pretty comfortably in the end, I thought we had quite a few more gears left in us, you can say what you like about Agar and the Players but the turnaround from last year to this should be applauded.
Oh and Handley is turning into a very good player indeed.'"
Yep agree with that Christopher
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"If he doesn’t get banned would you pick him for the final?'"
Not for me if all our exp players in the pack are fit
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| Another good performance after a shaky start.
The one thing we did find out last night is that Myler is not a half back.
I must be the only one who has thought Handley to be a good winger.
Yes he has the odd blip but overall far better than the Briscoes and is getting better all the time.
Same with Donaldson who puts his body on the line every time he plays and puts in a bucket load of tackles.
Mik again played well so did Gale.
For me I would still play Myler at FB with Walker missing out.
Looks like Cuthbertson will get in to the 17 at the expense of Holroyd.
The only other comment is that if Mylers pass was called for a forward pass then the one from McNammara for Savelio`s try should have been called forward.
And not sure why Last didn`t stick Connor at HB as Mc Nammara had a decent game last time at FB.
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| Thought their young winger stood up to getting targeted all game exceptionally well. Quite impressed with aspects of Hull actually, especially in the circumstances - but their D was too soft on several occasions once their middles tired.
Donaldson has been great really, hats off to him.
Myler give us probably less mistakes and better linking to the line, Walker gives us x-factor and a better running game. I’d take his injury into account (see how he reacts after that full game) before putting Walker back in at FB; he needs to be fully fit.
For me Cuthbo is a solid option - but with Prior, Smith potentially already in the side, how many loose forwards to we really need...? What we do need is punch and Holroyd gives us some of that. At this stage in his career Holroyd isn’t as good a player as Cuthbo, but I would pick him because of the value he brings in his role. Holroyd, Ava and Mik are an awkward combo to handle for opposition sides and we need to get on the front foot of Gale and Lui/Myler are going to control.
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| I thought although Scott tried well that he was the cause of at least three of Leeds tries.
I think the only selection question for the final is Walker or Myler. Cuthbo for me will only get in now if Holroyd is banned. Cuthbo would have played last night if he was going to play the final otherwise he won't have played for nearly three weeks prior to the final.
I think it would be a good experience at a very early age for a prop if Holroyd got to play in the final and could set his career up. Further, I think he currently offers the strong hard yards and is reliable whereas Cuthbo can be prone to the odd error and isn't particularly needed when Prior and Smith are around.
I hope Holroyd isn't banned as it was a nothing incident but the RFL seem keen to punish it. Would Tues night count as part of his ban? Presumably, if he gets banned then Sarginson does also.
Finally, I would have had Sam Walters in last night over Bodene Thompson. This highlights why his signing was bad as this was the perfect opportunity to throw Walters in with a strong side and see how he went. I thought Thompson was pretty poor last night too, stifled the attack on too many occasions.
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| If Holroyd is banned surely it will only be one game? The Warrington match will take care of that
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| Quote ="rugbyleague88"I thought although Scott tried well that he was the cause of at least three of Leeds tries.
I think the only selection question for the final is Walker or Myler. Cuthbo for me will only get in now if Holroyd is banned. Cuthbo would have played last night if he was going to play the final otherwise he won't have played for nearly three weeks prior to the final.
I think it would be a good experience at a very early age for a prop if Holroyd got to play in the final and could set his career up. Further, I think he currently offers the strong hard yards and is reliable whereas Cuthbo can be prone to the odd error and isn't particularly needed when Prior and Smith are around.
I hope Holroyd isn't banned as it was a nothing incident but the RFL seem keen to punish it. Would Tues night count as part of his ban? Presumably, if he gets banned then Sarginson does also.
Finally, I would have had Sam Walters in last night over Bodene Thompson. This highlights why his signing was bad as this was the perfect opportunity to throw Walters in with a strong side and see how he went. I thought Thompson was pretty poor last night too, stifled the attack on too many occasions.'" I also would have played Walters and then against Warrinington.I would go for Holroyd as he adds a bit of grunt..
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| A good win after a slow first 20 minutes. All credit to Agar, he has made us a team again instead of a bunch of strangers stood on a field together. Looking forward to some sterner tests to see where we reall are. My gut feeling is that we are still a high, mid table side jnad top 4 by the end of the year will be a major achievement.
Thinking ahead to CC i owuld start Myler at FB, although Walker has the X factor he isnt match fit and it showed a couple of times last night and Wembley is a big pitch. We know from experience that players that are not 100% get found out at Wembley. I think if we see Walker run out against Warrington then it will be Myler who gets the nod for the final.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"If he doesn’t get banned would you pick him for the final?'"
Yes absolutely.
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| I suspect that Cuthbo and Walker will not play on Tues even if not playing in the final just in case there are any late drop outs.
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"If Holroyd is banned surely it will only be one game? The Warrington match will take care of that'"
I thought I'd seen somewhere that the Warrington game won't count against any bans picked up this weekend. Could well be wrong though
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| The Walker, Myler debate maybe will come down to whether Lui is fully fit or too risky. Then its do we risk Lui and have walker on bench and leave Dwyer out. Or just leave Lui out and go with walker at FB then its straight Cuthbo or Holroyd
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| Quote ="chapylad"Another good performance after a shaky start.
The one thing we did find out last night is that Myler is not a half back.
I must be the only one who has thought Handley to be a good winger.
Yes he has the odd blip but overall far better than the Briscoes and is getting better all the time.
Same with Donaldson who puts his body on the line every time he plays and puts in a bucket load of tackles.
Mik again played well so did Gale.
For me I would still play Myler at FB with Walker missing out.
Looks like Cuthbertson will get in to the 17 at the expense of Holroyd.
The only other comment is that if Mylers pass was called for a forward pass then the one from McNammara for Savelio`s try should have been called forward.
And not sure why Last didn`t stick Connor at HB as Mc Nammara had a decent game last time at FB.'"
Connor played Full Back against Cas when McNamara came on - Ben went to 6 and Jake to full back, so we did that last night. I like Connor at Full Back, plays a bit wider and is dangerous.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Connor played Full Back against Cas when McNamara came on - Ben went to 6 and Jake to full back, so we did that last night. I like Connor at Full Back, plays a bit wider and is dangerous.'"
I get that Connor sort of fills the Bevan French role at Wigan but I was impressed with McNamara who seemed to go ok at Cas.
I thought he was playing at FB at the time.
Cheers mate for putting me right.
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| I think connor is similar to Myler in that his game prefers the freedom of full back as opposed half back where you have to be directly involved in most plays.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"The Walker, Myler debate maybe will come down to whether Lui is fully fit or too risky. Then its do we risk Lui and have walker on bench and leave Dwyer out. Or just leave Lui out and go with walker at FB then its straight Cuthbo or Holroyd'"
Wallet is the best full back at the club and is now fit. Think he will play. Myler has filled in manfully but misses out now for me, unless he gets a bench spot, but that's unlikely.
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| Quote ="chapylad"Another good performance after a shaky start.
The one thing we did find out last night is that Myler is not a half back.
I must be the only one who has thought Handley to be a good winger.
Yes he has the odd blip but overall far better than the Briscoes and is getting better all the time.
Same with Donaldson who puts his body on the line every time he plays and puts in a bucket load of tackles.
Mik again played well so did Gale.
For me I would still play Myler at FB with Walker missing out.
Looks like Cuthbertson will get in to the 17 at the expense of Holroyd.
The only other comment is that if Mylers pass was called for a forward pass then the one from McNammara for Savelio`s try should have been called forward.
And not sure why Last didn`t stick Connor at HB as Mc Nammara had a decent game last time at FB.'"
I think we all knew that a cpl years ago to be honest
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| Quote ="Shabino"Wallet is the best full back at the club and is now fit. Think he will play. Myler has filled in manfully but misses out now for me, unless he gets a bench spot, but that's unlikely.'"
Myler v Walker at FB is just a slightly different approach, it will depend how Agar wants to play against Salford and where he sees their weaknesses.
Myler is a pain in the bum to defend when he supports and plays in the line, he can cause all sorts of problems as is often "Jonny on the spot".
Walker gives you a significantly better running game; but he has more errors in him and is more injury prone. A few years down the line I don't think it would be a contest, but right now it isn't cut and dried.
On balance I would still probably go for Walker, but it would be tough on Myler after all he's contributed to getting the side to the final in the first place.
I'm assuming Lui will be fit for the final. I'm quite liking Gale and Lui at half when the pack gets forward: gives us flow on either side of the field and headaches for the opposition.
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| Quote ="Shabino"Wallet is the best full back at the club and is now fit. Think he will play. Myler has filled in manfully but misses out now for me, unless he gets a bench spot, but that's unlikely.'"
Is wallet Walkers new nickname,( he likes the cash ) or just a freudian slip.
Either way Wallet sounds good.
On balance Myler has earned the shirt on merit, everyone fit, bench for Walker and either Dwyer or smith to lose out probably Dwyer as then myler can spell at Hooker.
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| Strange that some people only seem to comment when we lose isnt it?
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Is wallet Walkers new nickname,( he likes the cash ) or just a freudian slip.
Either way Wallet sounds good.
On balance Myler has earned the shirt on merit, everyone fit, bench for Walker and either Dwyer or smith to lose out probably Dwyer as then myler can spell at Hooker.'"
freudian I'm afraid. How apt!
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