who's your gem of a coach to take over from mac?
i will email gary of your response sal and see if he is interested

Arguably not, but only if McD hadn't had a key hand in building this (weak) squad. Agree that his post-match comments were poor, but he'll be given half a dozen matches in the season proper (at least) on the strength of his history at the club. After that, if we're bottom 3 (?) the view from the SS will be made fairly unequivocally.

Seriously? You could pick just about anybody who would do a better job than he is currently doing. Still think Toovey will be here by Easter.

The guy has had so many chances, but seems to want to hang himself.

There's not a lot to 'realistically' choose from, is there?

In no particular order of preference...

1) Shaun Wane
2) Daryl Powell
3) Jim Dymock
4) Andrew Dunemann
5) Terry Matterson

Those are who I'd be looking at.

If this was 2015, I wouldn't be worried. After such a poor season in 2016 it would have been nice to see some green shoots of recovery, NOT one of the worst Boxing Day friendly results (and, by all accounts, performances) since the move to summer rugby.

Of course, there's not much point reading much into this. At worst it piles on more pressure on the coach and players, and has upset some fans who in all probability will buy season tickets anyway (even if I lived up north, the Boxing Day game long ceased to be worthwhile attending). It will be interesting to see how the other friendlies go, assuming there are some.

that is a far higher calibre coach than i would be expecting should mac go

A decent amateur coach would have us playing to more of a game plan than this fraudster. Sacked by Easter? Fingers crossed.

who would you actually choose william out of those?
i have always thought that dunneman would return at some point to coach leeds

I think Dunemann would be a good shout.

I'd take him in a heartbeat also as mentioned elsewhere Toovey id also test Parramattas resolve re-Brad Arthur or there's Ivan Cleary or Justin Morgan.

realistically its only when not if the change is made.

Agreed, though not as a knee jerk reaction, or because he is 'a crap coach'.

Coaching, and sport in general is circular, and I always remember after Bluey leaving comments made basically saying he'd outlived his shelf life. It didn't mean he wasn't a good coach, or take away from what he had achieved with us, it was just time for a new voice.

I think the same will eventually be said of Mac, he was perfect for us for a spell, and his record attests to this and the fact that he can without a doubt be a good coach. But very few stay on for as long as him, even after success like he has enjoyed.

a good and fair post, I would agree with this yes

good post.sums my feelings up and i would hazard a guess most people on here.

We needed to sign a decent hooker and half back to have any chance of a trophy plus a new coach , we have gambled on a hooker {left with little option) the other two we have ignored and it is blatantly obvious that leaves us in a mess .

Is there any evidence from the club that McD is under any pressure whatsoever?

He certainly isnt going to be under any pressure for losing a friendly more than a month before season starts.

Will you ever hear from the club the coach is under threat - seldom

To suggest fans have paid £18 for an opposed training session cannot have gone down well with GH!!

I'm not the biggest McDermott fan in the world, and personally for me he has run his race at leeds and it's time for a change.
I don't really get all the stick he is getting over the Boxing Day press conference. What do you all expect him to say. It is a completely meaningless fixture it's a pre season pre season fixture, it is an opposed training session for the team. Yes people paid near 20 quid but you all knew what the fixture was before going

Yes you will hear rumblings that the coach is under pressure but i never get that impression with McD. All i ever seem to get is that he is trusted by GH. I never get the impression he is under any threat at all despite the fans unhappiness at him.

And as for GH being unhappy at McD suggesting the fans paid £18 for a training session i would think it would fill GH with glee. He will still be sat at Headingley now double checking every single copper coin that he has managed to get out of the fans.

I never go to the Boxing Day game because i simply dont agree with it. The players should be allowed Xmas with their families instead of preparing for a game. Everyone i have spoken to seem to be moaning that the players didnt look to even know each and looked clueless but what was they expecting? This time of year isnt about team structure and ball work its about weight training and fitness work.

Perhaps if the team he is coaching didn't put in such abject performances his press conferences might be less stressful and his responses more appropriate.

For those of you saying Mc.D is right etc & those of us who attended basically got what we deserved i refer you to his pre-match PC then the hypocritical response to the abject bilge his team produced.
Marty as an attendee of these games for years i know full well "what to expect" however what was produced should be unacceptable on every level.
Yes they are generally error ridden with the obvious cobwebs but 95% of the time they produce some reasonable RL.
As for not expecting any structure really?
Again id expect at the very least a basic structure to be produced with or without the ball this was neither & the Coach/Team deserve the pelters they get rather than the fans deserving that garbage.

Not saying fans got what they deserved at all. In fact charging the fans £18 is in my eyes disgraceful.

The game is what it is though. A meaningless friendly in the middle of pre-season. Every year people go and after its always negative comments. Its a mickey mouse meaningless game.

Like i said mate given 2016 & the Coaches pre-match comments i dont think it's unreasonable to expect better than what was produced.

But people pay it and go. Was there near 11000 people there. No ones forced to go.
From the comments we were dross but we were dross all last year and with the quality of recruitment wouldn't have expected anything else.

I agree with you on result, but not on performance. Getting some form of structure is what this game is all about, otherwise what's the point?

All we heard about last year was the pathetic excuses about preseason, floods, spotty, etc. Preaseason was such an excuse for those defending at all costs last year. Wouldn't that surely make this preseason all the more important?