JJB goes flying out of the defensive line at a dummy runner leaving the huge gap next to Keinhorst.
JJB's exuberance got the better of him on this occasion.

Yeah I'd put the blame on JJB for that one unfortunately. Whilst still disappointing and bad to concede a try like that, I suppose a mistake like that happening because someone was too enthusiastic isn't as bad as it happening and the gap being there because of laziness/lack of effort.

Well first of all I wasn't really defending him nor any of his missed tackles, just don't have a dig at other posters for pointing out others mistakes in a game than turn every little thing back to the same player it's getting boring....... But if you want to go there then let's discuss the 3/4 tackles he made that prevented a try shall we?

Spot on. Yes Hardaker could've done better (and we've seen him do so many times) on Manfredi & Gelling but the reason people are highlighting other players in those tries is because the play should never have even gotten to Hardaker.

Manfredi should've been stopped by an organised united kick chase line, Gelling stopped by JJB and Keinhorst.

The reason people aren't bagging Hardaker for those tries (or some others in previous games) is because quite frankly the FB shouldn't be left to make one on ones. If he is then something has gone wrong beforehand to put him in that situation and why people will concentrate of what caused the 1 on 1 and not on if Hardaker didn't make the save.

I don't doubt his enthusiasm just his decision making sometime, such as his wedgie lift putting the Wigan winger in a dangerous position, lets the team down.

For the nonsense that was conceding the Gelling try - it was a set defensive line until Jones-Buchanan broke it by trying to solve a potential problem all by himself.

It's a recurring theme with this allegedly inteligent player, defence is most effective when it works as a unit not as a bunch of disparate individuals.

Im sure he and the coach knows it.

I was as, you say, having a dig at one poster that suggested Hardaker was one of our best players and responding to another who was having a dig at two of our best players while omitting to include Hardaker who also made a mistake in letting in the same try. Why is this not fair in your book?

It is only getting boring to those that do not want to be reminded of his increasing mistakes for some reason. But it is no more boring than pages of critical comment on Feres, Galloway, Burrow, Lilley, Sutcliffe, Mullaly etc and even our top tackle Delaney. I have not noted your boredom regarding these more frequent postings!

Frankly I get bored with those that seek to gag others who offer views they don't like. If you think I am wrong why not put up a counter argument? I am open to be convinced.

I already have credited Hardaker for some of his good defensive work particularly in the first half and have acknowledged his good work many times.

JJB has acknowledged his mistake but in fairness to both JJB & Keinhorst it was the 71st minute when the game was well and truly lost and obviously both players were really fatigued for good reason as they had both run themselves into the ground. So yes I agree the defensive line should have stopped him first but so should our last line of defense as he would have done in last seasons form. One on one tackling is part and parcel for a fullback and has been one of Hardaker's strongest abilities but this season he has been going high into the tackle and getting brushed off which didn't use to happen often before.

IMO we should be examining the defensive mistakes that led to the crucial early tries when we were still in the game which included missed tackles from not just Hardaker.

Hardaker was pretty good, he did make a couple of errors. Could in increase in the amount of work he's had to do be leading to increased mistakes?

JJB usually and successfully leads our defensive line at speed, something that has been sadly lacking in his absence. He has admitted his mistake and perhaps he was trying too hard to turn the tide in his first game back after so long. This error was the same one that Sinfield made in the Word Cup and is something that most players are guilty of from time to time. Are you suggesting this makes Sinfield unintelligent too?

Another to add to the list...

SPOTY
Kiwis
November floods
Silverwood
Winter
Mindsets of Unconscious Complacency
Exuberance & Enthusiasm

If a player recognises mistakes but continues to make them then he isn't displaying the intelligence he allegedly possesses.

I criticised Sinfield for that effort on Johnson in the World Cup semi-final. Unlike the one on Friday though Johnson was at least the player posing the actual threat, as he was in possession, rather than a perceived one.

Sinfield was certainly not unintelligent at Super League level but was often out of his depth at international level and flustered into making unintelligent decisions. He was instrumental in England losing that World Cup Semi final against the Kiwis with two horrendous examples of flawed decision making and utter balls-up's under the strain of the pressure of international RL against world class opposition. He's not used to encountering such situations in a Super League context.

Some you win, some you lose. Sinfield's was a poor decision given England were winning. JJB's was also a poor decision although, in the context of that match, more forgivable. Sometimes you need to resort to desperation tactics to alter the momentum; it usually fails but it can turn the occasional game.