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| Quote ="finglas"I still believe the only reason the try was chalked off was because McGuire ran behind Watkins before passing, you could see this because the VR ran the play a number of times and kept stopping as McGuire passed the ball. This is pinged all over the park under the rules when no physical obstruction takes place and I believe this left the VR with no option under those same rules.'"
Last season it was pinged when no physical obstruction takes place. This reason the interpretation is *supposed* to have change to remove that farce |
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Silverturd and co's inept performance aside i thought we had some very good spells but also some p!$$ poor ones.
Ablett and Mcguire must be the thickest 2 players we have (when Jjb is missing) for conceding needless dumb stupid penalties and our defence in open play at times was pathetic imo far too many "Andy Hay" efforts for my liking.
On the upside some of the passing and movement was sublime ,Aiton daft penalty aside was outstanding and Handley again had a very good game.
Cuthbertson has to be our best signing in a long time and must be in the running for MOS.
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wish I had a pound for every ablett ball steal penalty
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Nope.
It was correct under the 2014 interpretation, which was that if you carry the ball behind one of your own players it's a penalty irrespective of where the defenders are. However, players, coaches, fans and journalists moaned so much about that interpretation that it was changed for this year.
A defender now has to be materially disadvantaged by the dummy runner (i.e. prevented from making the tackle). There were other incidents last night where a player ran behind team-mates and Silverwood called play-on, pointing out that nobody had been impeded.
That Stuart Cummings (albeit retired, but a former head of referees) hasn't even bothered to keep himself up to date despite that being the whole point of his role with Sky doesn't distract from the fact that under the 2015 interpretation, that isn't obstruction.
On the Aiton one late in the game, how was that different to what Craig Huby did in the game at Headingley for one of Huddersfield's tries where he just stepped into Cuthbertson?'"
Cummings said something about it being different because it was near to the try line - I think he makes things up! |
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Cummings said something about it being different because it was near to the try line - I think he makes things up!'"
he didnt say that during the hudds-leeds game earlier this year, weirdly enough |
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Cummings said something about it being different because it was near to the try line - I think he makes things up!'"
It's such a shame that something that should have prevented controversial decisions only adds to them. I wonder how long it will be before teams realise they are best taking a tackle after a long sweeping movement - going through many hands in the process - and then actually scoring on the next tackle? It will stop the bluddy referee copping out and going to the video ref. He won't be able to.
.. I seem to remember Leeds at least been victims of this on a couple of occassions now. Wasn't there once a specific "re-run the whole move" from a referee? It ruins the whole euphoria of the moment.
I also seem to remember the video ref intervening when the referee in the field of play misses something. Wasn't Moon pulled up for a foul this way once? Why can they apparently do this sometimes but not on others? As always it's the inconsistency in the game that infuriates.
Better still...scrap the video ref. |
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"It's such a shame that something that should have prevented controversial decisions only adds to them. I wonder how long it will be before teams realise they are best taking a tackle after a long sweeping movement - going through many hands in the process - and then actually scoring on the next tackle? It will stop the bluddy referee copping out and going to the video ref. He won't be able to.
.. I seem to remember Leeds at least been victims of this on a couple of occassions now. Wasn't there once a specific "re-run the whole move" from a referee? It ruins the whole euphoria of the moment.
I also seem to remember the video ref intervening when the referee in the field of play misses something. Wasn't Moon pulled up for a foul this way once? Why can they apparently do this sometimes but not on others? As always it's the inconsistency in the game that infuriates.
Better still...scrap the video ref.'"
The re-run the whole play ("check everything"icon_wink.gif was the long final play vs Hudds at home last year when Briscoe was finally judged to shoulder barge Brough when both were going for the loose ball in-ball.
The Moon incident was last year vs Saints. Silverwood's seems happy with the tackle until Percival doesn't get up and asks the VR to review it. On his advice he then sends Moon off.
Two erratic and non-consistent uses of the VR system and Silverwood was referee both games. |
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I thought Thaler was poor tonight.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Silverturd and co's inept performance aside i thought we had some very good spells but also some p!$$ poor ones.
Ablett and Mcguire must be the thickest 2 players we have (when Jjb is missing) for conceding needless dumb stupid penalties and our defence in open play at times was pathetic imo far too many "Andy Hay" efforts for my liking.
On the upside some of the passing and movement was sublime ,Aiton daft penalty aside was outstanding and Handley again had a very good game.
Cuthbertson has to be our best signing in a long time and must be in the running for MOS.'"
Well said mate good post. |
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| Quote ="Neruda"icon_lol.gif
he didnt say that during the hudds-leeds game earlier this year, weirdly enough'"
And St.Helens scored from one Friday night, just like the one Leeds had chalked off. Consistency is non existant. |
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"The re-run the whole play ("check everything"icon_wink.gif was the long final play vs Hudds at home last year when Briscoe was finally judged to shoulder barge Brough when both were going for the loose ball in-ball.
The Moon incident was last year vs Saints. Silverwood's seems happy with the tackle until Percival doesn't get up and asks the VR to review it. On his advice he then sends Moon off.
Two erratic and non-consistent uses of the VR system and Silverwood was referee both games.'"
Says it all really doesn't it...!! |
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