Don't be so ridiculously stupid. He went straight for the head, and hit the head, no where near his shoulder.

But that was all he did to be fair, that was wrong.

Don't think he did anything that bad. Was a high shot, running out with aggression didn't do it any favours with the officials but for me wasn't too bad. As I say erlier, have little sympathy as bailey just went in to look for Bateman but my initial reaction from the footage Bateman was gouging at the eyes on the ground. For me in that little fracas bailey and Bateman were the worst

Mclorum biggest cheap shot merchant in the league

I didn't see much wrong from McIlorum.

There was a little flurry of foul tackles by wigan around the 30 minute mark with Gil Dudson the main culprit. Leeds at that point frustrated by wigan's defence kept taking exception to the challenges, and as well know, one in all in.

For some reason fans think something ver serious has happened when players all rush in, but it was standard foul tackles you see from every team in alot of games througout the season, but leeds reacted rather than accepting the penalty and getting on with it.

Not sure about gouging, pretty bold accusation to make.

I think Crosby and Dudson may get bans and rightly so.

McIlorum's tackle wasn't anywhere near as bad as Peacock's later in the second half.

Bateman an ran straight in and hit bailey from behind for once Bailey was hard done to

Wigan deserved the win on the balance of play. Out-enthused Leeds who underperformed for the first 60 and offered nothing much down the right without Watkins and Briscoe there.

That said, Leeds should have stolen it as am nowhere near convinced Moon knocked on for the late try.

Thaler dealt with the biff ok, but Dudson was a clear sinbin before that and Crosby really really lucky not to get sent off for the tip tackle.

What didn't help mcclorum was that the ref just 15 seconds before had told him to calm his side down, he's obviously not got much in the brain department

MM was a high shot, but don't think it was that bad to get a yellow IMO.
Re gouging just my initial reaction just as they are separating up on the ground Bateman has one hand ragging round baileys face. Don't think he will have been moping bhis brow. If I am wrong fair enough will watch it back at some point just my initial thought.

Good win for Wigan. We were poor for the vast majority but had plenty enough ball to win the game, but our execution was extremely off. Missed Watkins big time, but can't complain when they had a load out.

Moon and hall by far our best tonight imo

To be fair, he was hindered by being educated in Leeds.

now BJB has decided his future lies elsewhere I see no reason to keep rotating the wingers on a regular basis to keep all happy.I thought he was quite poor today although not the only one.we certainly missed the threat of Watkins.

He's from seacroft so probably not a lot of education involved

This game to me showed how important watkins is to leeds. Numerous occasions throughout leeds could have done damage down the right if watkins had been in sutcliffes position and there would have been a try down that side in the first half if watkins had been in some of the situations sutcliffe was.

I agree on Watkins been important, but think the failings tonight were more down to playing Sutcliffe there than Watkins missing. When we switched Ablett there we looked much better, just to prove the point.

agreed.couldnt help but think the amount of times we went right side in the first half I wish we did that more often when watkins was playing.he is our big attacking weapon for sure.

He was awful today and not that he got much ball but that was easily the worst performance i've seen from him. Did he even take one high ball in?

He was awful against Cas too, he nearly lost us that match on his own. The fact he scored 2 tries only covered for the mistakes he made.

He's a Yorkshire Ade Gardner, and isn't good enough to play for Leeds Rhinos. Briscoe should have the number 2 jersey sewn up, and Duckworth & Minns can provide cover for next year.

Thought Thaler handled the situation well and was right to bin the three.
Thought Dudson should have been binned for a well late hit from behind on McGuire.
Wigan forwards out played the Leeds pack and the fact it took us so long to score with all that pressure in the first half was the difference.
I said on the Wigan board this game might be a bridge too far after 3 intense game prior to this one.
Leeds had enough ball the same as they did against Saints and still couldn't score.
Is Sutcliffe really that slow? Bateman for me is also pretty average who believes his own hype.

For me briscoe is just as good a finisher as BJB, but we really miss his go forward and winning the collision. When BJB runs the ball up I always exspect him to be driven back and slow PTB. With briscoe you always fancy he will at least find his front and make some yards.

No brainer unless there is an injury no need to have BJB in the team. What's the point in rotating wingers, unless there is injury.

Agree apart from bateman, he was exceptional against saints on gf

Wigan came into this more fired up (this was more about Wane's pride more than anything else) and succeeded in their ugly but effective spoiling tactics. Leeds got suckered into it not helped by weak refereeing...too late they tried to play their game. Watkins AND Briscoe were badly missed down the right. BJB as always gives me the jitters in defence and gets pushed back far too easily when returning. Sutcliffe like Ward has proved he is not a centre and it is now time to stop the now silly tactic of naming Ablett to play anywhere but where he actually does just so that Clarkson isn't named as hooker. Good the first time; pointless now. The next game seems a good one to me to now introduce Robbie Ward off the bench as interchange hooker with Sinfield.

Ultimately as long as McDermott realises Wane's main tactic and finds a way to combat it in time for the matches that matter then I remain happy.

McIlorum is a bizarre choice as captain ...unless again it demonstrates Wane's main dogma as a coach when it comes to leading by example.

It was always obvious Briscoe was better, but some are obsessed with those not in team and thinking they'd play better.

McDermott was outsmarted by a semi shaven ape.

To be fair mate I agree he did play very well against Saints.
Was he playing centre that day?
I think someone also said on here that Leeds looked much better with Ablett at centre.
Robbie Ward at hooker against Hull has got to be the logical choice for me.