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| Quote ="El Diablo"In my house we obey the laws of thermodynamics.'"
Everything does. That's why they are called "laws" and not "guidelines".
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"On the contrary Delaney has OFTEN put in a MoM performance because of what he brings to the table. I have never expected him to produce something spectacular ( is that how you judge every MoM contender? ).
I for one do not 'undervalue' him and I am generally a big fan of his exactly because of his workload. If anyone is going to potentially fill Peacock's boots at prop then it is he.
I simply stated at the moment he "looks" jaded and not at his best. If the statistics show otherwise then I hold my hand up and would need to look again. His workload normally stands out for me and maybe it is more of an indication that all of the forwards are getting 'stuck in'.
I am a big Delaney fan, but it is maybe time to give him a relatively easier game for a few matches from the bench. I am also keen to see how Stevie Ward goes with an extended run at LF in the same way McDermott is very successfully easing Sutcliffe into the responsibilities at SO.'"
I think it's how the people who award MoM at grounds and on telly tend to judge every MoM. I'm not usually entitled to make the award.
You may not undervalue him (don't think I was directing that at anyone in particular) but a few threads I've read recently seem to suggest that people don't notice a lot of the type of work he does. This is a pretty common phenomenon with players of this kind. His workrate did stand out for me last night, although as I said this could be because I was looking for it.
I'm not sure how easy a game you can give him. If he's on the pitch, I think he'll go looking for work.
I agree that I'd like to see Stevie Ward play at 13 for a few games. Maybe not at the same time as easing Sutcliffe into the 6 role though? Given the tough fixtures coming up.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"( JJB not missed especially in the reduced penalty count - Ablett now seems to want to contest that role
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According to Opta Singleton was penalised at some stage last night. Got the offences by Achurch, Ablett and Watkins but can't recall any others getting pinged.
Perhaps someone who watched the game (rather than the stats) can remember.
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| Quote ="tvoc"According to Opta Singleton was penalised at some stage last night. Got the offences by Achurch, Ablett and Watkins but can't recall any others getting pinged.
Perhaps someone who watched the game (rather than the stats) can remember.'"
Was it the offside from McGuires kick early in the second half?, very unlucky if it was
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Was it the offside from McGuires kick early in the second half?, very unlucky if it was'"
That was a play the ball given, as set completed.
In answer to tvoc, I thought at the game Cas got three penalties and us two last night, so was surprised when saw four this morning to Cas. Reckon they have made up the Singleton one for the incident stated above.
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| YEP also had the penalty count as 3-2 to Castleford. God knows where Opta pluck some of their figures from.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"That was a play the ball given, as set completed.
In answer to tvoc, I thought at the game Cas got three penalties and us two last night, so was surprised when saw four this morning to Cas. Reckon they have made up the Singleton one for the incident stated above.'"
I believe this was accidental offside, which is usually a scrum but it was the last tackle so given as a handover. Right decision I thought?
"RFL Rules 14: Offside
Accidental off side Where the Referee is satisfied that interference with play by an off side player is accidental he should order a scrum."
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| There have been a few post game shots at Delaney this year.
This baffles me.
If I wanted to design a hard working, straight running, second row machine for my ideal team to drain the opposition with every contact he was involved in; Brett Delaney would be my template.
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| Delaney has occasionally looked a little off the pace for me this season.
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| Quote ="Gotcha" I just comment on what I see at the time.'" ....or what you see on TV or what you read from the stats, all three of which can apparently give a differing opinion on a player ranging from terrible to superb.
Delaney can "look" as knackered as he likes if he keeps playing the way he is playing, which is fine by me.
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| Quote ="G1"....or what you see on TV or what you read from the stats, all three of which can apparently give a differing opinion on a player ranging from terrible to superb.
Delaney can "look" as knackered as he likes if he keeps playing the way he is playing, which is fine by me.'"
Obsessed I see in the poster rather than the posts. Just gets a bit boring.
Quite frankly any player that plays in Leeds colours and not one of the two or three you have an agenda against, can play anyway they like. You don't have the ability to read what is in front of you.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Obsessed I see in the poster rather than the posts.
'" Are you Yoda?
Quote You don't have the ability to read what is in front of you.'" ....and you don't have the ability to see what's in front of you as we all know.
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| A bit late but I have been busy - another excellent game, Powell has done a superb job with Cas they look a well organised inventive team that will definitely make the play offs.
In Clark they have one of the most exciting players in SL and he compliments a tough rugged pack. The short turnaround worked in Leeds' favour as Cas appeared to tire in the last 20.
On Leeds - solid display and a great example of how to control a game and strangle the life out of the opposition. Our three quarters are the best in the league and they - along with Peacock and Kylie were the difference on the night.
Amazing how much our discipline has improved since JJB left the scene, although Ablett worries me he appears to be morphing in to JJB in this respect.
To keep Cas scoreless in the second half was a big plus - shame we conceded to very soft tries.
On the whole a great team effort in what was a very competitive game
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| Thanks for the replies re the apparent Singleton penalty from Tony, Gotcha and Craig. Always important to question and then highlight the rather obvious mistakes when they occur.
Penalty count of 3-2 to Castleford it is then.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Thanks for the replies re the apparent Singleton penalty from Tony, Gotcha and Craig. Always important to question and then highlight the rather obvious mistakes when they occur.
Penalty count of 3-2 to Castleford it is then.'"
So was the Singleton one classed as a penalty or not?
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"So was the Singleton one classed as a penalty or not?'"
Doubt it as the result was a handover.
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| because it was accidental offside therefore a handover as it was the last tackle
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| Quote ="Maverick Rhino"There have been a few post game shots at Delaney this year.
This baffles me.
If I wanted to design a hard working, straight running, second row machine for my ideal team to drain the opposition with every contact he was involved in; Brett Delaney would be my template.'"
Two or three times a game he will take the ball up and look to angle across the defensive line, looking for a team-mate to hit a line off him. I can remember only once when someone has put their hands up, and that was Clarkson in one of the games at home to Wakefield last year. It led to a try.
There is, potentially, more to his game than just a carthorse. Would be nice if some of his team-mates figured that out occasionally.
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