I can see Baldwinson becoming frustrated with the odd call up here and there next season. So far in his short career he has not exactly displayed much staying power or patience. Expect to see him at Wakey or someone similar after a season or 2.

And then in 4 or 5 years when he's matured into a top class forward he'll end up at saints or wigan and we'll be bemoanin why we never kept hold of him while leuluai and peacock toil on for 80 minutes week in week out half dead into their early 40's.

If our quality backs are to flourish, we need some more muscle up front. Cuthbertson & Baldwinson/Tonks added to the squad for next year have got to be steps in the right direction !
Just need some pace at half back & we should be okay !!!

Well it's strange GH said that Cuthbertson is effectively replacing BJB in the 25 man squad. Shouldn't it be that he's replacing Leuluai?

Also wouldn't be surprised if Keinhorst is moved on along with L.Briscoe, and Duckworth hasn't really had many games at London.

Foster should be given a chance. His tackle numbers are quite amazing considering he's in such a poor London side......389 tackles - only 11 missed tackles.

Look at what happened to Achurch he earned his chance which is what Baldwinson has to do. His spell at Bradford gives him a chance to show he is ready, up to him to prove it.

Or even better example Singleton. Baldwinson should get some games next year but shouldn't expect (or become frustrated) to be in the 17 every week. He's still 19 and Leuluai and Peacock will be gone by the time he's 21 and the door to the first team becomes more clear at Leeds than any other club he could end up at near the top of the table. Show patience for 12 months and he could go on to be one of the key parts of a new look Rhinos team moving forward over the next 5-10 years.

With the signing of Cuthbertson it does change things. Had we not signed a prop I'd have said give Leuluai another year and go with a prop line-up of
- Peacock, Singleton, Leuluai, Baldwinson/Mulhern/Yates (fighting for the last spot in the 17)

With Cuthbertson on board we can go
- Peacock, Singleton, Cuthbertson, Baldwinson/Mulhern/ Yates.

No entirely sure how Yates will go but probably worth a few games next year as given the nature and length of his injury I can't see us seeing the best of him in the remaining time left in 2014.

Interesting signing, going well in a struggling Knights side this season.

Gives scope to move one of Bailey or Kirke on, contracted or not.

If Baldwinson thinks he should be in the 17 of a top side, week in week out, then he's deluding himself. Hopefully his failure at the Warriors will have taught him some humility and patience.

Not sure in what way Baldwinson failed.

He was playing regularly for their 2nd team, and very well by all accounts. Wouldn't be so confident Kirke and Bailey would get in that same 2nd team.

Besides his very good offload game the thing that really stands out for me about Cuthbertson is his leg drive in the collision

If Kylie decides to go around again we will look pretty useful with JP,Cuthbertson and Singleton in the front row

So why is he back? He admitted himself that he couldn't see a way into the Warriors first grade, despite it looking like a car crash at times this year.

Presumably he didn't go to NZ with the intention of spending a year playing in the domestic comp then coming home?

Listened to an interview with him on radio Leeds, and he did not come a cross as a player who is prepared to wait, wants it now not tomorrow, can't see him being at Leeds long if he is not high up the pecking order.

Every player should want it now. Back yourself and give it your all. If you are good enough you are old enough. If the lad thinks he is good enough I don't see the problem. You are only going to learn the game and improve by playing the game more at the highest level.

I bet the ones moaning about his tongue in cheek comments, are the same ones moaning that we didn't give Amor a chance also.

Good signing is my initial thought. Should be a good bridge signing between the old guard going and new blood breaking through. Hasn't he been playing at Lock a fair bit this year?
Although a cautionary word, the club did speak to buderus before we signed him. That didn't work out so well last time!!!

On Baldwinson I think there is a lot of presumption going on. Because he went to Worriors he is impatient and wants first team football or he is off. To be honest as an 18yr old wafted money under his nose and a trip down under cannot blame him to be honest for taking the opportunity. Time will tell but I don't see it as a bad thing that he wants to be playing now.

With the signing I would like to see personally both bailey and kirke moved on. Particulary if kylie goes round again and baldwinson shows up well for Bradford

I haven't seen an NRL game for about 4 years, so I know bo diddly about Cuthbertson. We needed a fully grown front rower for next season though, as I'm not convinced that Baldwinson will be ready to be a regular first teamer at Leeds yet. Our squad seems a bit thin in the front row at times and I'm welcoming of a quality addition.

I sincerely hope the likes of Baldwinson and Tonks want the world right now and are chomping at the bit for their chance. They will, in reality, have to wait a bit. How they react to that wait is up to them.

WRT the comments that there are things in his game Bennett doesn't like hasn't Bennet signed him twice?

Is Kirke out of contract this year?

WRT Baldwinson it's up to him. He's got his chance at the Bulls this year and whilst it's great he's chomping at the bit I hope his Australian experience has taught at least one thing, patience.

With cuthbertson on board for next season, and saying everyone stays we start next season with

Props - Kylie, peacock, bailey, kirke, singleton, cuthbertson, baldwinson, tonks, yates

Back row - jjb, ablett, ward, Delaney, clarkson, achurch, minichella, foster

There is plenty of depth there but I still think although GH has said everyone is signed up for next season, there will still be a bit of player movement come seasons end.

Exactly, he's hardly likely to come out and say some will be moving on next year.....it creates unnecessary finger pointing at who it may be to leave.

The only real thing with what he said is that Cuthbertson is a replacement in the 25 for BJB, perhaps talks about Leuluai staying have begun to take place?

Perhaps yeh, I've thought for a while with the way Kylie has played this year that he'll go round again next season. That said I think donald was contracted for 2011 when he decided to retire at the end of 2010, so you never know

I believe so, likewise Diskin. Also Lee Smith and Griffin, so I don't really hold too closely to the "under contract" thing.

Bailey and kirke might as well not be in the squad. Peacock and leuluai will be getting their bus passes next season then you have baldwinson, tonks and yates are all unknown unproven entities so when you get down to it, what we have for next season is cuthbertson.

With 2 minute cameos from singleton.

That you dismiss what Peacock will still bring next year, which is probably better than most if not all props in the comp. plus describing Singleton as a "2 minute cameo" guy makes you sound ridiculous.

Cuthbertson is the sort of signing all SL clubs were making in abundance a few years ago - a nothing special player. The fact that he's being showcased as some kind of marquee signing says it all.

Let's just hope he's better than the last NRL prop we signed that Danny Buderus had spoken highly of!

TBF, GH said we tried to sign him for 2012 so it's somebody they've had their eye on for a while and before he ever became a teammate of Buderus.

A big problem for any coach is players nearing the end of their career , some coach once said that it is better to let a player go one year earlier than one year late.
I look at Adrian Morley, he should have finished last season at the wire,and taken up an assistant coaching role at salford.
So on balance if Kylie wants another season I would have to reluctantly decline.
With reference to Jamie peacock, he seems to be an intelligent bloke, so I think he would call it a day if he thought his last season would be sub standard .
Re-Cuthbertson I would assume that GH would have watched him,so I am reasonably confident he is the real deal.
One slight doubt is , if he is so good why has no other Aussie club signed him.