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| Leeds Met are putting their student fees up by 50% to cover increasing costs.What will this mean for the Carnegie cash bandwagon that bankrolls Leeds Rugby Club, Yorkshire cricket, the Challenge Cup and World Club Challenge.Is it right that students should subsidise all this, bearing in mind that the Met students tend to come from not as well off families than those at Leeds Uni.Is taking money away from education the right way to sponsor sport?
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| Quote ="Lord Magoon"Leeds Met are putting their student fees up by 50% to cover increasing costs.What will this mean for the Carnegie cash bandwagon that bankrolls Leeds Rugby Club, Yorkshire cricket, the Challenge Cup and World Club Challenge.Is it right that students should subsidise all this, bearing in mind that the Met students tend to come from not as well off families than those at Leeds Uni.Is taking money away from education the right way to sponsor sport?'"
erm where is your facts on this please? both have similar fee structures so it all goes on results. I actually have factual proof that will back my claim that you are talking
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| Quote ="bewildered"erm where is your facts on this please? both have similar fee structures so it all goes on results. I actually have factual proof that will back my claim that you are talking rubbish'"
You have "factual proof" about the incomes of the families of students at each institution? I'd be interested in seeing these "facts".
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| This is still being talked about, nothing has been decided as far as I'm aware.
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| Quote ="Jord Rhinosaur"This is still being talked about, nothing has been decided as far as I'm aware.'"
9 minutes for the Leeds Met mouthpiece to pipe up; must try harder.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"9 minutes for the Leeds Met mouthpiece to pipe up; must try harder.'"
who you supporting tonight?
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| I wasted 4 years of my life at Leeds Met; the least they can do is sponsor my beloved Rugby League to make me feel like I got something worthwhile out of them.
They've been sponsoring things for the past few years without raising their fees. I doubt now that this is proposed with the intention of it generating more sponsorship money. Im sure the hike in fees (Which most Uni's are planning/pushing for or they already have higher fees) is to ensure better facilities, better teaching and better equipment.
On your subject of background. I got Uni offers from Leeds and Leeds Met, I chose the met. Background wealth played no part in it and I suspect that is true to most, especially with the financial "Support" that is available nowadays. People who attensded whichever uni got their on merit, its unfair of you to suggest its due to their "well off" backgrounds.
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| Quote ="SDB"On your subject of background. I got Uni offers from Leeds and Leeds Met, I chose the met. Background wealth played no part in it and I suspect that is true to most, especially with the financial "Support" that is available nowadays. People who attensded whichever uni got their on merit, its unfair of you to suggest its due to their "well off" backgrounds.'"
Well said.
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| In an era of redundancies being threatened across the HE sector I'd be interested to know how Leeds Met and other post-92 'universities' can justify using funds to sponsor sporting teams.
If anything Leeds Rhinos should be paying Leeds Met if they are benefitting from the fruits of the sports science research being undertaken there.
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| Quote ="SDB"
On your subject of background. I got Uni offers from Leeds and Leeds Met, I chose the met. Background wealth played no part in it and I suspect that is true to most, especially with the financial "Support" that is available nowadays. People who attensded whichever uni got their on merit, its unfair of you to suggest its due to their "well off" backgrounds.'"
It may well be that wealth does not play a part in Universitys offering a placement, but when families have to make that choice they will take the obvious route.Students do have more access to finance these days, to take them into substantial debts.But from experience I know the extra costs involved in having a son/daughter attending university
Having worked at both for a number of years the more affluent by far attended Leeds Uni.
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| Quote ="SDB"I wasted 4 years of my life at Leeds Met.'"
What made your experience so bad?
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| Quote ="Jord Rhinosaur"What made your experience so bad?'"
I had 40 minutes of the worse refereeing exhibition to endure watching Leeds Met.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I had 40 minutes of the worse refereeing exhibition to endure watching Leeds Met.'"
Yep, some bloke called Johnny it was, he was terrible.
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| Quote ="Jord Rhinosaur"What made your experience so bad?'"
The fact he was at the met.
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| Quote ="Jord Rhinosaur"What made your experience so bad?'"
The course mate, Sold it on the open day brilliantly, was well keen. Turned out to be a shambles and abit Mickey Mouse. From what i hear, the sports courses are second to none, and I know alot of people that are properly happy with what they have chosen. Im not anti Leeds Met or owt but mine was a shocker. From start to finish.
Quote ="Lord Magoon"It may well be that wealth does not play a part in Universitys offering a placement, but when families have to make that choice they will take the obvious route.Students do have more access to finance these days, to take them into substantial debts.But from experience I know the extra costs involved in having a son/daughter attending university'"
I don't doubt that one uni will have more than the other in terms of students who come from a wealthier background. Thats bound to happen. I also think that that one is Leeds as you are suggesting. Im just saying that if someone wants to go to uni they will, regardless of whether its Leeds Met, leeds Uni whatever. Finance as you say is available and will take people into substantial debt....Do you think though that people would not go to Leeds met just because it upped its fees?? I totally appreciate what your saying and I can sympathise with you as to regards to costs.(I funded myself through uni with no loans) I just think that Leeds Met upping its fees is not going to prevent people from "less well off" backgrounds getting access to higher education.
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| My first year has been largly the same, the actual course content was nothing like they said it would be on the open day.
That being said, next year looks very good, as I get to be involved on an RFL management academy scheme and do a module of work at a NL1 club.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"who you supporting tonight?'"
Quins. You are still struggling to grasp that?
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| BTW, what does that have to do with my post?
Must try EVEN harder if you want to try and have a dig, at least make it relevant.
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| Quote ="Jord Rhinosaur"My first year has been largly the same, the actual course content was nothing like they said it would be on the open day.
That being said, next year looks very good, as I get to be involved on an RFL management academy scheme and do a module of work at a NL1 club.'"
Good Luck to you mate. Be warned though; I got the whole "its first year it dont really matter; the course gets good after this" and waited till the 2nd year. You pay your fees and wait for it to get good. For me, it didn't. Ever. I hope yours is different though. It certainly sounds pretty good. I know a few people who rate the concept of the RFL management scheme, hopefully it'll be what your after
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| Quote ="SDB"Good Luck to you mate. Be warned though; I got the whole "its first year it dont really matter; the course gets good after this" and waited till the 2nd year. You pay your fees and wait for it to get good. For me, it didn't. Ever. I hope yours is different though. It certainly sounds pretty good. I know a few people who rate the concept of the RFL management scheme, hopefully it'll be what your after'"
I think this applys to a lot of degrees, not particularly at any University. The rise in fee's will effect the 'well off' students more anyway won't it, as aren't fee's still based on you parents earnings to some extent?!
also, £10million a year? wasnt the challenge cup deal worth about £10m over the 6 years? if i was a student id be a little p****d of at that kind of money being spent. saying that, all uni's are a con anyway
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| Fees are not based on income. Loans/grants are.
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| If students spent less time and money on going out and more time studying then they would get better value for money out of it
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"If students spent less time and money on going out and more time studying then they would get better value for money out of it'"
Not really. I can sit in my room and study for free.
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| Leeds Met undergraduate fees have already been set at £2000 for 2009/10, most other Unis are charging around £3,000. In 2010 all Unis will have the opportunity to raise their fees to £5,000. All Unis will be increasing their fees in 2010 not just Leeds Met.
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