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| As it stands we have Lui Myler & Mclellend as our HB options.
I think we ALL agree that's average at best if we want to be competing amongst the top 3 again.
Lui has been steady but again I stick by what I said when we signed him he isn't good enough nor the "type" of HB we need.
Mclellend is rumoured to be going on loan to HKR for the season so other than Gale surely we would be targeting at least another HB as well as Gale?
For me we need this sorting asap the pack rebuild is a blockbusting Prop and BR away from near completion but HB is still a huge issue.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"As it stands we have Lui Myler & Mclellend as our HB options.
I think we ALL agree that's average at best if we want to be competing amongst the top 3 again.
Lui has been steady but again I stick by what I said when we signed him he isn't good enough nor the "type" of HB we need.
Mclellend is rumoured to be going on loan to HKR for the season so other than Gale surely we would be targeting at least another HB as well as Gale?
For me we need this sorting asap the pack rebuild is a blockbusting Prop and BR away from near completion but HB is still a huge issue.'" I like Lui and if we can sign a quality 7 that will do for me.Unless we can move some front rowers on we wont be signing a prop.We don't need anymore back rowers as that is the strongest part of our team.We also have Walters and Trout waiting for their chance.
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| Lui, Gale/another and McLelland would do me for next year. That’s a good enough combo to push for the top end of the table if we get the balance right elsewhere.
Agree with prop but rather get the right standard in 2021 than another gap filler now. We need to start signing for winning not just surviving.
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| Doesn’t matter who your halves are if the pack gets battered. Sort the front row out first, then the rest.
We’ve way too many average (at best) props.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Doesn’t matter who your halves are if the pack gets battered. Sort the front row out first, then the rest.
We’ve way too many average (at best) props.'" I agree but we have to find a way of moving our average contracted props out.Who's going to take any of them?
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Doesn’t matter who your halves are if the pack gets battered. Sort the front row out first, then the rest.
We’ve way too many average (at best) props.'"
Spot on. I’m really hoping we don’t make a desperation half back signing
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| Over the next 12 months we need to move on Cuthbertson, Singleton and Petaru, as none of them are the required standard. My guess is that none of them would go this closed season as there wouldn’t be any takers, so we’re more than likely stuck with them.
I’d actually try to sort out the right wing. Briscoe isn’t going to be back for a while, and even then there are question marks about his future. We need a winger who can bring the ball back well, and is a good finisher, but I don’t see so many FT options.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"As it stands we have Lui Myler & Mclellend as our HB options.
I think we ALL agree that's average at best if we want to be competing amongst the top 3 again.
Lui has been steady but again I stick by what I said when we signed him he isn't good enough nor the "type" of HB we need.
Mclellend is rumoured to be going on loan to HKR for the season so other than Gale surely we would be targeting at least another HB as well as Gale?
For me we need this sorting asap the pack rebuild is a blockbusting Prop and BR away from near completion but HB is still a huge issue.'"
Don't disagree but the fact we're gambling on a player with the serious injuries that Gale's had only illustrates how difficult signing one decent half is proving, let alone two.
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| We are in a pickle. We have players who can do a job, just not consistently to the required standard, to improve them we need a coach who is able to improve the players at his disposal as we are really going to struggle to plug all the gaps with new signings in one hit.
This is where my doubts arise in Agar, has he the nous and ability to coach the players up to a decent standard? With a decent No 2 i think we can push them on somewhat to a better level, im just concerned that the fragile mindset we have acquired is going to hamper and gains we make in the squad and this need addressing first and foremost.
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| Need a 7 with good hamstrings so they can catch the ball down off his boot laces on the odd occasion Dwyer passes the ball to him.
Let's wait and see what happens.
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| Quote ="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"We are in a pickle. We have players who can do a job, just not consistently to the required standard, to improve them we need a coach who is able to improve the players at his disposal as we are really going to struggle to plug all the gaps with new signings in one hit.
This is where my doubts arise in Agar, has he the nous and ability to coach the players up to a decent standard? With a decent No 2 i think we can push them on somewhat to a better level, im just concerned that the fragile mindset we have acquired is going to hamper and gains we make in the squad and this need addressing first and foremost.'"
The Fragile mindset hasn’t really showed itself since Agar took over IMO, the only game that sticks out is Hull KR
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Need a 7 with good hamstrings so they can catch the ball down off his boot laces on the odd occasion Dwyer passes the ball to him.
Let's wait and see what happens.'"
Boot laces? The way Dwyer was passing on Friday he must have thought Lui was 8ft tall, think every pass he had to jump in the air to catch.
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| just seen something on ,yes I know FB that Myler could be on his way to wait for it HULLKR !
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"just seen something on ,yes I know FB that Myler could be on his way to wait for it HULLKR !'"
To be honest that makes a lot of sense especially for Myler, it’s clear we need a different type of player and if he can get a 2-3 year deal with Hull KR he should take it rather than seeing out his contract and they are losing both their first choice half backs
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| I did assume he might go to HKR, but the thing that would hold it back would surely be TS. Smith has worked a lot with Myler, and dropped him for the CC final against us because of his poor defense. I think he was also still in charge at wire when he let him move on to Catalans?
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| Quote ="christopher"To be honest that makes a lot of sense especially for Myler, it’s clear we need a different type of player and if he can get a 2-3 year deal with Hull KR he should take it rather than seeing out his contract and they are losing both their first choice half backs'"
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| Quote ="exiledrhino"I did assume he might go to HKR, but the thing that would hold it back would surely be TS. Smith has worked a lot with Myler, and dropped him for the CC final against us because of his poor defense. I think he was also still in charge at wire when he let him move on to Catalans?'"
Yeah TS is shrewd and he knows what players can and can't do.
The question is whether Myler can do what HKR need him to do for them - which in all fairness might be more a developmental role. Depends how they feel he would combine with their other half options too.
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| Atkins would have been a good partner for abdull but sheens who is years past his best didnt play him and got an offer from salford and took it.I know for a fact atkins would have stayed with rovers if smith had been in charge and we wouldnt be sfruggling like yourselves for a decent half,myler isnt our answer,just not good enough if we have any ambition.
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| But as Jim says, whilst Myler may not be your long term answer at HKR will he do enough of a job next year to allow you to build? Ambition (and a decent halfback) costs, so a couple of years with someone steady and cheap(ish) will allow you to strengthen elsewhere. (Please take him.)
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| Quote ="HRS Rhino"But as Jim says, whilst Myler may not be your long term answer at HKR will he do enough of a job next year to allow you to build? Ambition (and a decent halfback) costs, so a couple of years with someone steady and cheap(ish) will allow you to strengthen elsewhere. (Please take him.)'" you can keep him thanks
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| I liked Gale when he was at his best when Cas were at their best .If we sign him that is the player I want ,I'm a bit uncertain about a 31yearold who has missed a full season . I think Sinfield may have one or two surprises in store for us in the ne t few weeks regards recruitment
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| Why do people keep going on about the future and youngsters? And yet contradict that by wanting immediate signings who would stunt the youngsters?
We have one of the best young halfbacks around in McLelland, we need him pushing on. Gale is the perfect sort of signing to do that. Two years with him, and we have that development. Remember these have trained together before and the Cas management liked what they saw.
You can’t go out there and get a 25 year old, as that would be long term, unless you are writing off McLelland. Myler is not the type of player to help develop someone, so that won’t work.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Why do people keep going on about the future and youngsters? And yet contradict that by wanting immediate signings who would stunt the youngsters?
We have one of the best young halfbacks around in McLelland, we need him pushing on. Gale is the perfect sort of signing to do that. Two years with him, and we have that development. Remember these have trained together before and the Cas management liked what they saw.
You can’t go out there and get a 25 year old, as that would be long term, unless you are writing off McLelland. Myler is not the ìtype of player to help develop someone, so that won’t work.'"
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Why do people keep going on about the future and youngsters? And yet contradict that by wanting immediate signings who would stunt the youngsters?
We have one of the best young halfbacks around in McLelland, we need him pushing on. Gale is the perfect sort of signing to do that. Two years with him, and we have that development. Remember these have trained together before and the Cas management liked what they saw.
You can’t go out there and get a 25 year old, as that would be long term, unless you are writing off McLelland. Myler is not the type of player to help develop someone, so that won’t work.'" If McLelland is as good as you say(ive only seen him against Bradford he was miles off SL that day) then yes Gale signing is perfect.McLelland will still have to impress to get infront of Lui who I feel will be better next year.If Myler does leave then Lui has to stay,we cant go into next season with only two half backs with one being a rookie.
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| If our halfbacks next year are Gale, Lui and McCllelland, then il be very happy.
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