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| Baldwinson, Walters & Ormondroyd in the Featherstone squad on Wednesday night so if they play they'll be ruled out of Friday v Castleford.
Golding Briscoe Watkins Moon Hall McGuire Burrow Galloway Parcell Cuthbertson JJB Ablett Ward Sutcliffe Singleton Garbutt Ferres Mullally Handley
That'd be my guess for squad.
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| We're gona beat them.
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| Golding
Briscoe
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Hall
McGuire
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Galloway
Parcell
Cuthbertson
Ablett
Ward
JJB
Garbutt
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Ferres
Burrow if fit
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| Not sure Golding and or Burrow will be 100% for this one.
And what`s the news on Galloway after only playing a bit part on Friday?
Has Singleton been cited from the Fev game?
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| suck cas' forwards into the middle, keep their offloading game quiet and nulify their plays to the wings, easy!
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| Quote ="chapylad"Not sure Golding and or Burrow will be 100% for this one.
And what`s the news on Galloway after only playing a bit part on Friday?
Has Singleton been cited from the Fev game?'"
Burrow might not be 100% but if he's good enough to get 20/25 mins out of we should have him on the bench. I know people want us to do better with getting ball to our three quarters but really got to work their forwards just go down the middle all night after they had to play in such a tough game in very hot conditions just yesterday. Burrow would hopefully be good to bring on in the 2nd half against hopefully very tired forwards.
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| Now they've just got the league to concentrate on, I expect to see a backlash from Cas. They'll be desperate to get back to winning ways.
BTW, I've also discovered the Pope's religion.
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| Hopefully this won't be another battering at the hands of Cas. I am quietly confident we can actually win the game now we have a mostly fit squad, i think Cas miss the punch of Moors off the bench and that could well be the deciding factor. I would expect a backlash from cas, but i also don't think the leeds players will have forgotten the humiliation at wheldon road so both sides should be fired up.
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| I actually think/hope Sunday`s game will have taken something out of the Cas team.
You should not underestimate how draining and tiring that game will have had on them.
All this coupled with us having an extra 2 days rest should tip it in our favour.
And if we can score as many tries as near to the posts as poss we should have no problem converting 4 points to 6
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| No charge for Singleton so he's fine to play on Friday.
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| That's good news about Singleton.
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| The bubble has burst. That game in 30 degree heat will have taken a lot out of their tanks. They were well beaten in a huge cup game, so it will affect them mentally. Moors is a huge loss on that left side. 2 days extra rest is a huge advantage for us. Take them on down the middle and cut off the supply to Shenton. Game over
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| If we loose this then we can give up the LLS (not a huge blow obviously but always nice to win)
Hull showed the way, use speed and size to puncture holes down the middle, I actually think Mullally and Baldwinson would be more use that Galloway in this game.
Would also give Ablett the very specific job of shutting down Gale on the left
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| Spot on - close down Gale - with & without the ball. Its the obvious tactic , but as Mac has never yet done it against Gale or Brough etc - why should he start now ?
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| I'd stick Ward on Gale, and Ablett on Roberts. JJB's defence could be massively important on Friday
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| Quote ="Stevosfalseteeth"I'd stick Ward on Gale, and Ablett on Roberts. JJB's defence could be massively important on Friday'"
The one thing Hull showed on Sunday, is that organised one line defence is how you stop Castleford. The minute you start jumping out, they hit you, and again when Hull slacked on this Cas hit them. On that basis, JJB's defence is the massive issue we have for Friday, so if you meant important as in him not doing his usual but actually sticking to the one line, then yeah you are correct.
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"...
Hull showed the way, use speed and size to puncture holes down the middle....'"
So who'll provide that for us?
We've not got any forwards with the power of Watts, Taylor or Bowden.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"The one thing Hull showed on Sunday, is that organised one line defence is how you stop Castleford. The minute you start jumping out, they hit you, and again when Hull slacked on this Cas hit them. On that basis, JJB's defence is the massive issue we have for Friday, so if you meant important as in him not doing his usual but actually sticking to the one line, then yeah you are correct.'"
JJB has led the defensive line which for so many years has been a proven strength for Leeds and he still leads our line. However often the problem is that his team mates are too slow to follow his fast line speed and he sometimes gets the blame when if fact it is others having a rest.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"JJB has led the defensive line which for so many years has been a proven strength for Leeds and he still leads our line. However often the problem is that his team mates are too slow to follow his fast line speed and he sometimes gets the blame when if fact it is others having a rest.'"
Your second bit is just rubbish Juan. JJB puts in massive effort in defence that is unquestionable, but his excuberance in jumping out costs us a lot of times. As I stated in my initial post, a structured one line is how you beat Cas, and one man going against that is not the blame of his team mates however you want to spin that.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Your second bit is just rubbish Juan. JJB puts in massive effort in defence that is unquestionable, but his excuberance in jumping out costs us a lot of times. As I stated in my initial post, a structured one line is how you beat Cas, and one man going against that is not the blame of his team mates however you want to spin that.'"
They score virtually all their tries on the edge and Im guessing over half their tries are scored by wingers, so how is a middle defender jumping out to apply pressure gonna be a major problem?
I would rather we all moved up and in and test Gale's short kicking game than sit back and watch them score multiple tries off the same set move over and over again
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"They score virtually all their tries on the edge and Im guessing over half their tries are scored by wingers, so how is a middle defender jumping out to apply pressure gonna be a major problem?'"
You obviously don't watch them, or maybe unsure what one line defence is. The move to the wing comes from the middle from the space created, and the oppossition edge defence sucking in to cover. They do it time and time again, and on both sides.
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| Gotcha is right, Castleford make the space in the centre (mostly from the forwards throwing line balls) then push it out to the edges quickly and accurately where they have too many options to be able to reliably predict and defend. As Hull have shown twice this year if you resist the urge to bite in on the ball carrier and wait for them to hit the line and quickly smother the ball to prevent the offload you nullify a large part of their attack. Running out on Gale will be useless as a Cas player will be looking to run at the hole left behind and Gale is smart enough to make that play. The focus should be on going up as a unit and cutting down his options.
Another thing Hull took advantage of, and it's something I mentioned after the magic weekend, is that their backs in general aren't overly physical. There were a few times where the Hull backs were in a 1 on 1 against their Cas equivalent and they just went straight over the top of them. We should be looking to get Hall up against Minikin as much as possible as there will only ever be one winner.
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| Our right side defence has looked better since the Magic weekend all be it they haven't faced the same level of test that Cas will throw at them. Briscoe has improved since then also.
As hinted at above, Minikin was really poor on Sunday and should be the one of the back 3 to target.
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| Cas have Leeds number, is it 7 wins on the bounce and won the last 4 at Headingley?
Cas will be up for this, the quick turnaround and getting back on the horse ASAP will actually benefit them imo.
They've lost this season a few times and followed it up by dishing out some right ings rather than sulking.
Cas by 18
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"Our right side defence has looked better since the Magic weekend all be it they haven't faced the same level of test that Cas will throw at them. Briscoe has improved since then also.
As hinted at above, Minikin was really poor on Sunday and should be the one of the back 3 to target.'"
True.
We need to get Hall one on one with Minikin as much as possible.
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