There, I said it.

Simply not good enough.

Painful to watch. Players totally disinterested.

It says something when Achurch is the most passionate one out there.

Fans are playing these 'entertainers' wages. The buck stops somewhere.

Go away.

Dreadful.

Being ripped the shreds by the likes of Willie Isa?

Acceptable?

Shipping the best part of 50 points every week?

Acceptable?

Hardaker GIVING UP on one on one tackles?

Acceptable?

To be fair, they have been a lot more committed this week, but we're just too lightweight at the moment.

As for a couple of star players wanting out, if it is Watkins, and Hardaker then they're certainly not trying to put themselves in the shop window.

The talent is clearly there.

So what's affecting it?

Players don't become garbage overnight.

Ablett, Briscoe and Hall won't turn it around immediately.


McDermott out.

Most of the talent is in the stands.

Not including the coaching staff in that, are we?

Your head is in the sand.

Not the Leeds coaching staff

Are you going to sack players too? They need to rebuild together. Like McDermott or not we've won with him in the past and I think will do again. Sinfield, Peacock, Kylie and no injuries and we'd be around top 4 minimum. Changing the coach wouldn't change that.

McDermott doesn't drop the ball like our back 3 did all night, he doesn't back chat to the ref, doesn't commit stupid fouls on the last tackle. Wigan were there for the taking in the first half, then Handley blew it twice in the first 7 mins of the second. Game over

Thank the gods for supporters like you....the club (and GH especially) needs you

McDermott was the man put in charge of managing the transition into the post-Sinfield era. He's failed, spectacularly. In any other sport or most other walks of life his employers would be showing him the door, irrespective of what he's done before.

Jose Mourinho - enough said.

Better there, than where yours usually is, Sir



I actually would like to see McDermott gone, but I also know that the chances of him leaving mid season are highly unlikely, and no matter what you think of McDermott I think most coaches would have struggled given the circumstances McDermott has had to contend with since the end of last season.

Leeds have enough ability within the team, despite injuries, to not be bottom of the table with only 3 wins all season.

McDermott, as the man in charge of the team shoulders a large amount of responsibility, he is culpable. Just like in alot of other jobs, if a team is under performing and making lots of mistake the manager of that team is held responsible. You don't get people coming in and saying, well he doesn't make the mistakes and underperform, it's them.

It kind of goes with the territory of being a manager or being in charge of something, you are responsible for it's performance.

Perfect example. Would have been easy for Chelsea to just sit back and let Mourinho live off what he'd achieved in previous years. Abramovich took the difficult and potentially unpopular decision in order to arrest their slide, and they finished in the top half of the table.

Obviously Leeds aren't going to achieve that kind of turnaround in the time left in the season, but there are plenty of examples of coaching changes bringing improved performance from the same playing squad.

Leeds have literally nothing left to lose now. Hard to conceive of any change they could make that would lead to performances worsening.

He (like any other coach of a major sports team) was put in charge to win trophies. He's been VERY successful at that.
Is he the man to take Leeds into the next era? I don't think so, but I bet most coaches would love to be such a failure.

On a separate note does anybody remember the old days on here when certain posters used to try and attribute most of the positive things during TS's tenure to McDermott. How times change.

The team is trying too hard, it seems as though the players are desperate to create something on every play. With so many players out McDermott needs to go to a very basic game plan in 5 drives and a pressure kick then concentrate solely on defence.

The coach is responsible for the game plan. So that leaves two options, either he's telling the team to try stupid, low percentage offloads in our half early in the tackle count or he's telling them something else and they are not listening to him. Either way he's got to go.

Did Mourinho lose half his squad to injuries? If not then not a good comparison.

I don't recall Chelsea being all that better after he went either.

18 points from 17 games under Mourinho

32 points from 21 games under Hiddink

So just over a point a game to just under 1.5 points per game, with the same players

We need to stick by him! We can't go from winning the treble one year to losing 3 lads to retirement and however many to injurys doesn't mean he isn't fit for the job. We have recruited poorly imo signing past it Aussies and useless backs. End of the day we are too big of a club to not be contending for the grand final and I'm confident that in a year or two we will be back up there with the best!

If Hiddink had have been in charge all season they still only finish 1 place higher than they did, assuming the points per game would've been the same had Hiddink been in charge for all 38 games.