Just watched the Fartown game and I cannot believe the quality or lack of it from the refs. St Helens got every call going today, sending off 50/50 call. But then the drop goal it was clear on TV it was a drop, if the ref had doubt he goes to the square in the air. He did not and Fartown robbed or you could say cheated, the question is what will the RFL do!!!

But this is not the occasion strange things have happened, two weeks ago the incident at the wakefield game, with the alleged influence of the directors of refs, encouraging the ref to penalise Trinity. Last week every call went to ST Helens again, a vital try scored when many refs would have chalked it off for interference. Guess who was the video ref !!

It is time the RFL acted for the good of the game, every ref has bad days but it seems strange at the moment they all benefit St Helens. Who is in charge of refs. Mr Ganson who is know throughout the game as a St Helens support.

Please will something be done for the good of the game

All I read is that you're scared of sintellins.

Nail on the head here mate. I heard that at the start of the season Ganson rounded up the refs n told them to make sure Saints get all the decisions there way because he loves Saints.

Ferres did not deserve to be sent off?
What a stupid comment.
He fully deserved the red card, well done Bentham for having the bottle to do it.
Ferres should get 4/5 games for that.

Drop goal was wrong, but ferres had to go that was a nasty one, he had every opportunity to just drop the player or just dump him on the floor in a safe way, deliberately pile driver'd him. I just hope the refs are consistent with this and not cop out on report, think you are right about everything else though, Bentham marched St. Helens back into a game they where all set to lose.

I could pull this apart ... But I stopped reading after "the sending off was 50/50"

Exactly, I'm sure a few of the other refs would've gone for 'On Report'......he'd have then got slated had he done that.

All season refs have been putting similar incidents on report, the question is why did he send him off today and will every ref do that now.

What about the 'knock on' in the build up to the Penalty try/no try when it got chalked off in the Saints/Leeds game. St Helens don't get all the decisions, need to take the rose tinted off for a wee while.

Should be a cracking game at the end of the month with Leeds having a nice run of games before then & Saints having a few banana skins.

I didn't see much wrong with the reffing in that game.

I thought Huddersfield were holding down and interfering at nearly every play the ball in a desperate attempt to slow Saints down. They were rightly penalised in my opinion.

The sending off was spot on. Whilst I don't believe any player deliberately tries to dump another player on their head, Ferres had no excuse for that tackle. I still have no idea what he was actually trying to do. But it was incredibly dangerous and deserves a straight red and a few games ban.

The drop goal was a 50/50 decision in my opinion. From one camera angle it looked like it might have sneaked in, from another it looked like it went wide.
Whilst some people have said he should have gone to the VR I don't see how, given the 2 camera angles, it would have helped much.
I'm also not sure where Dave Woods has got it from that if the ball goes directly over the post that it's a goal. I'd always been taught that in that case it would be deemed a miss.

The only reference I can find in the RFL rules is that it states the posts are deemed to continue upwards indefinitely, which would also surely deem it as a miss.

Either way, it's nowhere close to an injustice to Huddersfield. They didn't lose because of Phil Bentham. They lost because of their attempts to slow the play the ball, Brett Ferres and Danny Brough's inability to kick a drop goal.

50/50 sending off?

Better get to spec savers.

Saints are corrupt. We get all the calls. Ganson ordering refs to give everything to saints hahahaha

Quality!

I've seen the Ganson half time thing mentioned a couple of times now, IT IS STANDARD PROCEDURE, it happens all the time. Ref's have coaches, just like the players.

50/50 call on Ferres? Don't be stupid, it was a clear red card, and Huddersfield got a lot of calls.

I will give you though, the penalty leading up to the Ferres card, the one where Walsh hit out at McGilvery and somehow got a penalty, was ridiculous. And the drop goal was a goal.

"Huddersfield got a lot of calls" - would you care to enlighten us regarding this statement as you have identified two cases where we clearly didn't at crucial times??????

You also had a 10-4 penalty count up to that point. I guess that is just forgotten about isn't it?

Like I said it was a bad call with the Walsh and McGilvary situation, where probably the Ferres incident would never have happened. It was a bad call for the drop goal.

But don't hide behind saying everything was against.

Yes we had a 10 - 4 penalty count, but I'm pretty sure that was 10 penalties to Saints!!!!!!!

I can't believe anyone is criticising the sending off decision. If other refs have put a similar tackle on report (to be honest I haven't seen many like it outside pro wrestling) then they were wrong and their lead shouldn't be followed in the name of consistency.

Hudds will feel aggrieved by the drop goal. But it's an error. People make them. To suggest it's bias is just foil-hatted rambling.

The sending off was not 50/50, clear red. While I don't think a lot of this particular ref as others have said least he had the bottle to make the decision I bet a few would have put it on report.
Bad tackle and bad timing, should get a fair few games for that

Straight red and Ferres to take over the undertaker at wrestlemania. Well executed piledriver If You ask me this is RL not WWE.

It was 10-4 against Huddersfield mate.

Ferres was a clear red and I am glad Bentham made the call. I thought Bentham was having a good game but the Walsh McGilvary call was, as you say, dreadfully wrong. That really benefitted Saints in the momentum of the game.

The drop goal was 50/50 but he should have gone to the VR, having over-used it during the game. If he needs the VR to help him decide that a plyer is tackled in the air then use it for that. Like Him says, the VR may not have been conclusive in any event.

Huddersfield can blame Ferres and Brough's terrible kicking for that loss.

No, it is not standard procedure at all and no one has ever known it happen before... so not standard. I have it on very good authority that Ganson gave Roby one almighty bollocking at Wakefield from one of the Wakefield staff members. They could not hear exactly what was being said, but they could head Ganson shouting from in the corridor outside the ref's room! Equally, I think it is difficult to argue that Roby's performance, while I don't believe corrupt or biased, was sub-standard & advantaged Saints on the day because you had two players subsequently suspended following the game that both should have been red card incidents.

Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"No, it is not standard procedure at all and no one has ever known it happen before... so not standard. I have it on very good authority that Ganson gave Roby one almighty bollocking at Wakefield from one of the Wakefield staff members. They could not hear exactly what was being said, but they could head Ganson shouting from in the corridor outside the ref's room! Equally, I think it is difficult to argue that Roby's performance, while I don't believe corrupt or biased, was sub-standard & advantaged Saints on the day because you had two players subsequently suspended following the game that both should have been red card incidents.'" Yes it is standard procedure and it happens regularly. The referees have a coach for the game, in this case Ganson. The referee coach discusses the performance with the referee at half time, as the team coaches do. To say nobody has ever known it happen before simply isn't true, I asked somebody I know who would know about these sort of things and they confirmed that it's nothing new at all and a regular occurence. Agar may not have been aware of it and Ganson may have rightly or wrongly shouted at Roby, either way it's a non event and completely blown out of proportion by ignorant comments by Agar. www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... om-actions

Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"No, it is not standard procedure at all and no one has ever known it happen before... so not standard. I have it on very good authority that Ganson gave Roby one almighty bollocking at Wakefield from one of the Wakefield staff members. They could not hear exactly what was being said, but they could head Ganson shouting from in the corridor outside the ref's room! Equally, I think it is difficult to argue that Roby's performance, while I don't believe corrupt or biased, was sub-standard & advantaged Saints on the day because you had two players subsequently suspended following the game that both should have been red card incidents.'" Yes it is standard procedure and it happens regularly. The referees have a coach for the game, in this case Ganson. The referee coach discusses the performance with the referee at half time, as the team coaches do. To say nobody has ever known it happen before simply isn't true, I asked somebody I know who would know about these sort of things and they confirmed that it's nothing new at all and a regular occurence. Agar may not have been aware of it and Ganson may have rightly or wrongly shouted at Roby, either way it's a non event and completely blown out of proportion by ignorant comments by Agar. www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... om-actions

Honestly thought that Rugby League fans were knowledgeable,,then this comes up......ah well.!!!!!

They gave the penalty to Walsh for Mcgilvray lying on too long. Ref spoke to the linesman who says Jermaine would not get off Walsh to allow him play the ball as it was a half break and Saints where on the front foot. Correct decision.