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| Wouldn't sign either tbh.
IF Webb departs then i'd go with Bjb to FB AND Chisolm to RW we still have cover with Watson plus the versatillty of Watkins ,Hardaker ,Delaney and Ablett.
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| Dont think bjb is a full back mate. A mini of two years ago yes, but not now
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| Full Back is a tricky position for Leeds coming up if this is Webb's final year. Do they go with Smith or BJB and find out several games into 2013 that Smith still hasn't rediscovered his pre-Union form and that BJB is better suited to being on the wing, or do they bring in someone new.
As for a winger, no, not even if BJB moves to 1. We have Chisolm, Watson and Smith and if we are going to spend salary cap money on a new signing i think it needs to be aimed in the direction of a prop not a winger.
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| Tricky one. Haven't seen Minicheddars play for a few years, is he still any good? Williams looks a decent player. I'd doubt whether we really need any recruitment in those positions, but I think you should always be open to the occasional new signing in any position if real top class is available at the right price, and their character fits the club's ethos.
Since I can't say whether these lads are currently real top class, I can't sy whether they're available at the right price and I can't say whether thry're the right personalties for Leeds, it's a bit tricky to assess their worth.
Besides which, these sorts of rumours never come to much anyway.
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| I'd take Minni for sure. Yes, he's not in his prime anymore, but he's still playing to a very high standard and would be a top top super league player. If Brett Hodgson can look good in super league, Minni certainly can.
Yes we've got some promising youngsters, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't sign good players who come available and would improve the team.
Minni looks after himself well and is in good shape - and coincidently, I wouldn't mind his brother following him over either.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Wouldn't sign either tbh.
IF Webb departs then i'd go with Bjb to FB AND Chisolm to RW we still have cover with Watson plus the versatillty of Watkins ,Hardaker ,Delaney and Ablett.'"
You wouldn't sign the wolfman?!
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| Always liked Minnichiello, but he'll be 33 next year. Williams on the other hand is young and a monster.
With Hall and Williams' power on the wings outside the raw pace of Watkins and Hardaker I reckon we could have the most potent back line in Superleague.
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| Minichiello is class but i would give fb to bjb
bring in williams and let smith go
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| Leeds don't need to sign a winger, therefore signing Williams is an unnecessary over-indulgence.
Leeds probably do need to sign a full back but Minichiello is getting on a bit. Could do a job for a couple of seasons and fill an obvious vacancy. Didn't play a lot between 2006 and 2009 due a series of injuries.
I'd be inclined to avoid signing either of them but if pushed to sign one would go for Minichiello as the full back position needs addressing, plus he can also fill in as a utility winger.
Leeds need to solve their impending front row problems ahead of any other area of the team. The props are finished and the hooker position appears problematic and far from solved unless anyone believes McShane or Hood might be the answer? I don't.
A centre might also be a useful acquisition given the brittleness and unreliability of Tampon Watkins.
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| I think it must be obvious that we need a footballer at fullback. Hodgson, Tomkins, Wellens are all talented footballers. BJB doesn't fit that criteria. Why not play McGuire there?
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"Leeds need to solve their impending front row problems ahead of any other area of the team. The props are finished and the hooker position appears problematic and far from solved unless anyone believes McShane or Hood might be the answer? I don't.
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Tempted to agree about the props but I think they've got another end-of-year swan song in them that will enable us to mount a serious challenge from 5th or thereabouts.
I hope you're wrong about at least one of the hookers, given the length of their contracts.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"You wouldn't sign the wolfman?!
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Given the £££££ involved and what's already here no i wouldn't.
Lets not forget he's just coming back from a serious neck injury ,would'nt come cheap either and i think Chisolm is the next quality Winger at our squad which leaves the likes of Bjb ,Smith ,Watson and the versatillity of Watkins and Hardaker to cover Wing/FB.
Even IF Smith departs i don't think Williams would be worth the £££££.
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| Has anyone seen much NRL this season? Do either of them look up to much?
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| Dont say I never mentioned RE Williams long ago..
Williams has looked quality for Manly this season IMO, and will be a great signing for us to replace Webb, with BJB to FB.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Dont say I never mentioned RE Williams long ago..
Williams has looked quality for Manly this season IMO, and will be a great signing for us to replace Webb, with BJB to FB.'"
When's Gareth Ellis signing for us?
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| Quote ="Frosties."Dont say I never mentioned RE Williams long ago..
Williams has looked quality for Manly this season IMO, and will be a great signing for us to replace Webb, with BJB to FB.'"
Frosties, which rumour is stronger- Mini or Williams? Both are playing really well so far in NRL with no signs of injuries reoccuring.
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| I will stick to my consistent view point. Don't see the point in signing overseas wingers.
Fullbacks, Stand offs, Centres, Scrum halfs, Hookers, Props, Back Rowers, and Loose, yes, but not the wing.
If you have those positions doing their job, i.e. creating opportunites, then in the majority of cases your winger is going to look good anyway.
So many distinctly average wingers over time have looked the bees knees in teams where the others are doing their jobs.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Tempted to agree about the props but I think they've got another end-of-year swan song in them that will enable us to mount a serious challenge from 5th or thereabouts.'"
Leuluai is gone and retired at the end of this season isn't he? Peacock's effectiveness is already on the slide therefore expect his performances to slide further over the next two years. The front row is definitely the area in most need of replacement in the short to medium term.
Quote ="Clearwing"I hope you're wrong about at least one of the hookers, given the length of their contracts.'"
I'll gladly be proved wrong but I haven't seen anything in either of the two which suggests to me they are anything above ordinary. It's a key position to nail. It's surely only a matter of time before some of the other top clubs in SL work out a plan to comfortably deal with the telegraphed Burrow Scoot-Scoot Duck-Duck alternative?
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| Quote ="LFCPatriotRhino"When's Gareth Ellis signing for us?'"
As soon as Lesley Vainikolo's dad says he can. Or something. Ooh, is that a cake....
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| On the other hand, a winger who can turn half chances into tries (and potentially match winning ones at that) can be worth their weight in gold. Bradford Bulls didn't do too badly off the back of having two quality overseas wingers, did they?
I give you Leeds defeat to Melbourne (?) in the WCC where Kallum Watkins replaced an injured Scott Donald on the wing and failed to take two half chances offered to him in the corner as a perfect example of the difference a quality winger can make.
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| I think they'd be pointless signings. Minichello will is 33 and well past his best, and Webb is 31 and past his best. We have 2 or 3 young FBs that need to be given a run at some point. We can't expect players like BJB (in particular) and Watson to become good enough if they don't get game time in that position.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"I give you Leeds defeat to Melbourne (?) in the WCC where Kallum Watkins replaced an injured Scott Donald on the wing and failed to take two half chances offered to him in the corner as a perfect example of the difference a quality winger can make.'"
With all due respect, Melbourne were always in coasting control in that game and played within themselves without much requirement to exert themselves more than necessary. Had Watkins scored, I'm of the opinion it would have been met with a response as they appeared to have another gear or two up their sleeves if needed.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"On the other hand, a winger who can turn half chances into tries (and potentially match winning ones at that) can be worth their weight in gold. Bradford Bulls didn't do too badly off the back of having two quality overseas wingers, did they?'"
But Leeds have the players elsewhere to make the opportunities, that's what I was saying.
Quote ="Andy Gilder"I give you Leeds defeat to Melbourne (?) in the WCC where Kallum Watkins replaced an injured Scott Donald on the wing and failed to take two half chances offered to him in the corner as a perfect example of the difference a quality winger can make.'"
Quoting an example of one match, wouldn't justify paying big bucks on a long term contract. Either way, you seem to be missing the fact hat Watkins actually wasn't a winger anyway, but a stop gap due to an injury.
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"With all due respect, Melbourne were always in coasting control in that game and played within themselves without much requirement to exert themselves more than necessary. Had Watkins scored, I'm of the opinion it would have been met with a response as they appeared to have another gear or two up their sleeves if needed.'"
Maybe so, but we'll never know because the inexperienced, out of position youngster Leeds had in that right wing position failed to take the half chances that were on offer.
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